I don't like to complain about FireArms outside the game, but this is one issue that bothers me. As far as I remember the major rule of TA is NO MARKERS IN SPAWN. And in general everyone goes by this rule, so it's fine. But it's been several times already that on sd_force a red marker was placed in the Blue Team's spawn. As far as spawn limits are concerned, I think everyone will agree on this - if you're hit (or killed) when you spawn, that means the marker is IN THE SPAWN.

 

To illustrate this I prepared the Blue Courtyard overview. A red dot with the circle around it is one of the Blue spawn points. The crudely drawn letter A symbolizes the red marker. From my own experience, when a Blue Team member spawns in that point and the red artillery strikes, the poor grunt is left with no body armor and 30 HP at most. That is if he starts with heavy armor, as I did. I think, some people, using med and light armor have been killed in that fashion.

 

A lot of times, I hear the Red Team say "No, it's not in your spawn", but I think they are referring to the marker placed in another spot - letter B on the picture. That spot is crucial (it guards the only exit from spawn), but it is legal, as artillery requested upon that marker could never hit a spawning Blue. I can only hope the Red Team confuses those two spots, because otherwise they are breaking the rules, since the artillery from the A-marker DOES HIT the Blue Team's spawn point.

 

And another thing - I haven't noticed the TA admins or members taking action to stop that practice. I wish I could say no TA member was on the server, when those events took place, but I can't. I don't want to point fingers or make scenes, don't get me wrong. It's just that I'd be happy if someone (preferably a Senior Counsel member or an admin) clarified those things to me once and for all. Because if it's allowed, then there's no point in me getting as angry over it, as I am now or spoiling everyone else's gameplay by my endless whining about it. "It's just a game, it's just a game, it's just a game..."

 

http://bathroomgangsta.w.interia.pl/szablon_obrazki/spawn_marker.jpg

I THINK U RIGHT ! everytime u spawn and get hit by marker without even moved,no matter if u die, is a spawnmarker in my point of view!!!

Bane,I was there and told the offenders to remove the marker, which they did. Whomever it was firing at the time complained about TFEN12 also doing this, I did not notice if he did or not. Since I do not have admin powers, I was unable to do anything but take a screenshot for later posting, which you beat me to :-)B-Cell

Well, I also took a screenshot, B-Cell, and to beat you once again , here it is:

 

http://bathroomgangsta.w.interia.pl/szablon_obrazki/sd_force0001.jpg

 

I managed to take this screenshot in between arty strikes, which explains my full health and armor (in case someone tried to prove my point from the previous post in this thread wrong).

 

I recall tfen12 being involved in this, and Azirafal confirmed that, when I asked him just to be sure. Although, knowing tfen-the-prankster, it might all have been a joke or something, hell if I know. Still, I hope the rules will stay the way they are (or are supposed to), and Spawn arty will not be tolerated, even if TA members use it.

 

Was I too harsh here? I hope not. And tfen - no offence, dude.

:roll: :roll: you know i do hear some cryin , ,don't yall hear it I sure do

no norm, I don't hear it. SorryMarkers in spawn can be fairly annoying. It's just not worth playing when you respawn then die again.Next time, find out who was shooting the arty (should be easy, when someone dies from being hit, just look at who killed them). Then post their SteamID and a screenshot in the Server section

I remember seeing this but did not hear about blue getting killed in hallway spawn or even injured. If this, in fact, is the case, I would vote to ban arty in this area. See if any senior counsel have any ideas or suggestions.

I think A would be wrong but B looks fine to me.

Actually, you can't always blame the shooter of the arty, as it's not always his fault. It may not be the marker he personally put down, his may be elsewhere but the spawn marker was called out by the lamer.

-DeadRoach]Actually, you can't always blame the shooter of the arty, as it's not always his fault. It may not be the marker he personally put down, his may be elsewhere but the spawn marker was called out by the lamer.

yes but when they keep shooting it after to tell them and say "oh I didn't put it there"

then the are at fault

Ok this happened to [DoL] in a league match and nothing was done but personally i find it extremely lame.On Durandal when we were on blue the red team placed an arty marker near the boxes, the one on its own in the little detached garage thing. Anyways we were fine with that bcoz it was not a spwan marker, or so we thought. That was until we spawnd ouside near these boxes and were killed several times, it also blew up the boxes. We did complain but they fell on deaf ears.Im not sure if its considered an exploit but if it is, i thought they were banned in league matches. oh well

I think all players thats playing on TA gets pissed off when you get killed in spawn areas.But i think im talkin for all TA when i say that if we see a spawn marker we will do all we can 2 remove it.And 2 ppl who are using spawn marker, "Please play on another server".See Ya

-EniGma]I think all players thats playing on TA gets pissed off when you get killed in spawn areas.

But i think im talkin for all TA when i say that if we see a spawn marker we will do all we can 2 remove it.

 

And 2 ppl who are using spawn marker, "Please play on another server".

 

See Ya

Well you don't speak for me EniGma :evil: and I say if it comes with the game you can use it ,(and yes i do hear some cryin) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

It's lame. And once i played it was arty marker in our spawn in durandal so it destroyed our crates all :twisted: the time

-Gen.Wellsy]Ok this happened to [DoL] in a league match and nothing was done but personally i find it extremely lame.

 

On Durandal when we were on blue the red team placed an arty marker near the boxes, the one on its own in the little detached garage thing. Anyways we were fine with that bcoz it was not a spwan marker, or so we thought. That was until we spawnd ouside near these boxes and were killed several times, it also blew up the boxes. We did complain but they fell on deaf ears.

 

Im not sure if its considered an exploit but if it is, i thought they were banned in league matches. oh well

yeah thats was soooooo lame i got so mad then i died from a ammo box