Posted July 10, 20169 yr These are my read and write speeds for my HDD, Gator helped me cancel out many things and lead me to the HDD being the POS in my system. I dont really know if these numbers are good, but while playing in game BF4 will have random lags, like stutters and be like a broken record then jump back up to normal gameplay. I hope this is the problem before i lose my marbles and start feedin the ducks
July 11, 20169 yr Author Hmm, I assume mine isn't very good seeing yours are much much higher Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
July 13, 20169 yr I don't think its your hard drive that is causing the stutters and random lags. Your read and write speeds are perfectly normal for traditional hard drive. To best of my knowledge BF4 loads the whole level into ram in the beginning, hence the very long load times each round. If you don't have enough RAM, this could be an issue and causes stuttering. But windows memory management is usually smart and will make BF4's memory take priority. Unless you are near the minimum requirements of the BF4 (4GB) this shouldn't be a problem. Without know much about your system, I would start by closing as many programs as you can before playing. Including anti-virus, game capture tools, browsers, etc. Are you on wi-fi? If so can you try a long Ethernet cable see if the solves it? Try playing the game at reduced video graphic settings? Does it help? If so, I would look into video drivers, CPU throttling, GPU throttling, overheating. If not, some software issue? I'm too tired to think of further debug steps. Good luck Because we're posting crystal disk mark benches, I'll post mine. Big numbers don't mean much. (2x 500gb Samsung 850 Evo's)
July 13, 20169 yr Get this: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/FrH48d/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam Or this: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam An SSD is just a required piece of hardware nowadays, sorry to say. As Danic said, the windows memory manager should handle things, but I think a SSD would help that due to their increased speeds.
July 14, 20169 yr Not too bad. Kinda on the lower side of things. Max you can go is around 540 for these things before you start going into expensive 1500 or more. These are my read and write speeds for my HDD, Gator helped me cancel out many things and lead me to the HDD being the POS in my system. I dont really know if these numbers are good, but while playing in game BF4 will have random lags, like stutters and be like a broken record then jump back up to normal gameplay. I hope this is the problem before i lose my marbles and start feedin the ducks [ATTACH]5319.IPB[/ATTACH] for a 540 up and down, you look at 1-1.5 dollars per GB. the 1500 Mb/s up and down can go up to 2-2.5 dollars per GB. assuming your PC can support it. based from the memory express website. same thing just with specs on bottom of page http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX55510 1TB - http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX55509 or http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX55509 then if you want... get this beast http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX60082 or http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX60082 the 950 Pro series is powerful shit... Sequential Bandwidth Benchmarks2 Read: up to 2,500MB/s Sequential Write: up to 1,500MB/s Random IOPS4KB, QD 32, Thread 4 Benchmarks2: Read: up to 300,000 IOPS Write: up to 110,000 IOPS 4KB, QD1, Thread 1 Benchmarks2: Read: up to 12,000 IOPS Write: up to 43,000 IOPS
July 15, 20169 yr While the hard drive might seem like the problem it really shouldn't affect BF4 as much as it would say like an MMO that is constantly pulling from the drive. BF4 is mainly server driven with PB really being the only thing that runs in the background. It would help overall system performance to get an SSD but I don't think it is really necessary unless that drive is showing signs of failure. Random lag and stutters can be associated with the video card and if you're using an Nvidia card they have had issues with random stuttering and FPS lag in the past. Yes, everything is going to SSD and the cost has been reduced dramatically. It wouldn't hurt to really get one and if you have the money for it I say go for it but if you don't save for it and by then they will probably be cheaper Took a gander at your PC specs in your profile and the dual 660s might be a bit subpar to run a game like BF4 and SLI has been known to cause a lot of stuttering in the past. Is this a problem that has just started occurring or have you always had it? The random stuttering and dropping in FPS then jumping back up is usually video related maybe try playing with gfx settings to see if you get more stability. If this is a problem that has just started then I would suspect the HDD maybe on its way out and back up what you have and get a new drive but does this just happen with BF4 or other games. Someone also said if you are on WiFi that would cause it too if you aren't hard line try that too. Though at this point in time I'm suspecting something video related.
July 22, 20169 yr Author While the hard drive might seem like the problem it really shouldn't affect BF4 as much as it would say like an MMO that is constantly pulling from the drive. BF4 is mainly server driven with PB really being the only thing that runs in the background. It would help overall system performance to get an SSD but I don't think it is really necessary unless that drive is showing signs of failure. Random lag and stutters can be associated with the video card and if you're using an Nvidia card they have had issues with random stuttering and FPS lag in the past. Yes, everything is going to SSD and the cost has been reduced dramatically. It wouldn't hurt to really get one and if you have the money for it I say go for it but if you don't save for it and by then they will probably be cheaper Took a gander at your PC specs in your profile and the dual 660s might be a bit subpar to run a game like BF4 and SLI has been known to cause a lot of stuttering in the past. Is this a problem that has just started occurring or have you always had it? The random stuttering and dropping in FPS then jumping back up is usually video related maybe try playing with gfx settings to see if you get more stability. If this is a problem that has just started then I would suspect the HDD maybe on its way out and back up what you have and get a new drive but does this just happen with BF4 or other games. Someone also said if you are on WiFi that would cause it too if you aren't hard line try that too. Though at this point in time I'm suspecting something video related. It just started happening. I never had problems with the SLI in BF4 or BF3, no lags or stutters, and it happens with every game even ARMA. I have 16gbs of ram id assume thats enough for this game. WirelessG36 runs a single GTX660 and is getting 140-190FPS which i do not quite understand, it could be a bad card, HDD, or PSU. I really am at a loss at pinpointing the problem here and its been frustrating me for a while now. I don't think its your hard drive that is causing the stutters and random lags. Your read and write speeds are perfectly normal for traditional hard drive. To best of my knowledge BF4 loads the whole level into ram in the beginning, hence the very long load times each round. If you don't have enough RAM, this could be an issue and causes stuttering. But windows memory management is usually smart and will make BF4's memory take priority. Unless you are near the minimum requirements of the BF4 (4GB) this shouldn't be a problem. Without know much about your system, I would start by closing as many programs as you can before playing. Including anti-virus, game capture tools, browsers, etc. Are you on wi-fi? If so can you try a long Ethernet cable see if the solves it? Try playing the game at reduced video graphic settings? Does it help? If so, I would look into video drivers, CPU throttling, GPU throttling, overheating. If not, some software issue? I'm too tired to think of further debug steps. Good luck Because we're posting crystal disk mark benches, I'll post mine. Big numbers don't mean much. (2x 500gb Samsung 850 Evo's) [ATTACH]5326.IPB[/ATTACH] I am on Ethernet connection, I first thought it was my monitor making the problem because it was VGA, and i would get the in game BF4 symbol saying the screen was not keeping up to refresh rate. I do have my CPU overclocked to 4.2 ghz and stock is 3.4 with boost to 3.6. i did adjust voltage but not sure if its correct. CPU temp is good all throughout loads, I bought new RAM sticks because i thought that was it. but that did not work. i have a 750 WATT PSU powering this all, i dont think this would be the cause tho, but it is 5 years old. the HDD is the only performance lacking piece in my PC thats why i blamed it but im not sure
July 23, 20169 yr Are you getting any other random errors with other programs or maybe even virtual memory errors before my old hdd went it started giving me pagefile and virtual memory errors. At this point in time now that it just started happening I would suspect the HDD and its near the end of its life at about 5 years which is a good time for any hdd. Start scoping out SSDs and let me know that voltage for your overclock for an extra 800MHz you shouldn't have had to dump too much into it. If you are unsure the voltage is correct run prime95 for at least a few hours to check system stability. But here is something try running it without the overclock and see if you still get the issue if you do then you can easily say its the HDD or some other hardware if no issue then you know its your overclock. When you overclock your CPU it is expecting quicker input from the other devices on the board. When I overclocked my 980X to 4.4GHz I did it through the baseclock which translated to everything else going up in clock. You can oc through the turbo on these newer chips but your CPU will still be limited by the slowest component on the board. Though with these newer chips I don't recommend baseclock ocing because the amount of voltage required to do so is a lot higher than a turbo oc.
July 23, 20169 yr Author Are you getting any other random errors with other programs or maybe even virtual memory errors before my old hdd went it started giving me pagefile and virtual memory errors. At this point in time now that it just started happening I would suspect the HDD and its near the end of its life at about 5 years which is a good time for any hdd. Start scoping out SSDs and let me know that voltage for your overclock for an extra 800MHz you shouldn't have had to dump too much into it. If you are unsure the voltage is correct run prime95 for at least a few hours to check system stability. But here is something try running it without the overclock and see if you still get the issue if you do then you can easily say its the HDD or some other hardware if no issue then you know its your overclock. When you overclock your CPU it is expecting quicker input from the other devices on the board. When I overclocked my 980X to 4.4GHz I did it through the baseclock which translated to everything else going up in clock. You can oc through the turbo on these newer chips but your CPU will still be limited by the slowest component on the board. Though with these newer chips I don't recommend baseclock ocing because the amount of voltage required to do so is a lot higher than a turbo oc. i changed the CPU back to normal GHZ and installed new drivers for GPU and everything, still does it. And in fact, i just had a error message pop up on me. ill send a picture of what it said http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160723/7d62dd2fdee296cb4307c84a319d9f97.jpg
July 23, 20169 yr NET Framework can usually be related to the program that you are using but and seeing the exception window that seems more like someone didn't tidy up their coding and when you tried to do something it just went wtf. Sometimes it can be memory related especially if it happens more frequently but it just looks like a hole in the code because the way it was coded it also accessed something that was protected. When coding in school NET Framework is kind of like the system that drives the program and how Windows uses most of its exception handling. If these errors continue to pop up then you could have bad memory or maybe even a bad hard drive because the pagefile is just like memory its the overflow for when your memory gets used up. The way memory addressing works you would technically never have enough RAM so Windows always has a pagefile for more system related processes. More memory is still always better but if this exception type stuff continues to pop up it could memory or primary hdd issues. Have you ran ms chkdsk lately to see if you have any bad file blocks. Go into cmd run as admin type in chkdsk let it run and see what it says if you have file structure and linkage issues the hdd is pretty much gone mine gave a ton of linkage errors before it went.
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