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EA and DICE messed up hardline with the faulty hardcore settings. Killed the game before they decided to fix it.

EA and DICE messed up BF1 with only custom servers that everyone had a hardtime finding and ran everyone off if they wanted hardcore.

EA and DICE has messed up BF5 and why am I not surprised. What do you expect for a $30 game from a triple A company?

DICE Responds To Controversial Battlefield 5 Changes

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The WWII shooter changed the "time to kill" values to make it easier for new players. That didn't go over so well.

 

A recent Battlefield V patch made changes to the values of the multiplayer game's time to kill, or TTK. The changes were aimed at helping new players have a better experience, but as you would expect, some people in the "core" Battlefield community understandably took issue with the changes.

 

DICE created a "core" playlist for the Conquest mode in an attempt to appease veteran fans who didn't enjoy the TTK changes. But DICE now acknowledges in a new Reddit post that this one playlist was "clearly" not enough to satisfy core fans.

 

So now, DICE is adding a "Core" version of every playlist, not just Conquest, and these new versions should arrive next week.

 

Another part of the issue with Battlefield V's TTK is that DICE apparently did not address the feedback fast enough. "I'd like to apologize for the silence over the past couple of days on the TTK topic. We've seen it's been a big talking point and causing a divide in the community, which was never our intention. We have been listening closely to what you've all been saying," Battlefield community manager Dan Mitre said.

 

He added: "Changes to the game carrying this kind of weight needs clearer, earlier communication before getting rolled out. We will improve how we roll out updates in the future and respond more quickly when you have questions or concerns."

 

DICE made the TTK changes right away was due in part because the developer knows a number of new players will pick up the game for the holidays, and DICE wanted to try to help them have a good experience. "The intent came from us observing that new players are having a very hard time with the game compared to our core players, and we wanted to see if we could improve this over the holidays so more players can have a great time," Mitre said.

 

Battlefield games are known for evolving over time based on community feedback and ideas that DICE itself comes up with. "Battlefield V is no exception," Mitre said regarding how the WWII shooter will grow and evolve in time.

 

Unlike previous Battlefield games, all of Battlefield V's expansions are free as part of the game's Tide of War live service element. The first major post-release expansion, Chapter 1: Overture, is out now, and it adds a new map and the single-player War Story where you play as a member of a German tank division. On a longer timeline, Battlefield V will introduce a battle royale mode called Firestorm in March.

 

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The leader of the Third Reich learns of the global nerfs in BFV

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I'm not sure why games shoot for the higher TTK for military style shooters. Almost every game I've played that has ramped up TTK has received negative feedback (e.g., The Division when enemies took 3 clips at end game, Escape From Tarkov when body armor made you god like, Far Cry with the crazy high TTK versus head shot). If I have the drop on someone, they shouldn't be able to take multiple hits, spin around and kill me... or get away easily to heal. It just starts turning games into run and gun arcade shooters. Not saying it is that bad in this case, but I hate seeing the news nonetheless. A lot of the fun is in the tactics, not just who can duck and swerve the most in a face to face shootout. Hopefully BF V reverses course on this one.
Well this is both a pleasant surprise and highly unexpected. I gotta say, while it seemed a pretty dumb move in the first place, it looks like they maybe learned a few things from BF1. I do hope they keep this attitude up. Its really refreshing to see it. Now I can feel better about logging in.

What is dumb is that a month ago when it was talked about, the community said not to do this. Change TTD but leave TTK alone.

Then they changed it anyways.

So at least least we know that Ea and DICE half ass listen to the community.

 

I guess that is why I am not surprised. Remember the hardcore changes in BF1 and then they just gave up altogether.

Well they changed it back which is good but even with the new guns I just didn't feel the same desire to log in last night. I mean it could be that I have a new Ampeg half stack to dork around with but I digress. I think this little stealth nerf may have put a lot of folks off and might see their numbers go down. A little early to tell but we shall see. I'll probably play some this weekend as its a long weekend but not sure that I will be hard and heavy. I've got a couple of games I'm playing at the moment and I'll have a bunch of new gear to play around with as well.

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