It's newer, bigger, better technology. With newer, bigger, and better technology, also comes newer, biggerd, harder-to-control bugs. It's expected with any update. I believe STEAM also eliminated a large ammount of the hackers - Not all of them, but alot of them.

Exactly "BUGS" thats why steam blows. It can be really big but when i get game unavailable or when i cant start the fu--ing game it really gets frustrating. Sooo many bugs. And how can u say that WON HAD the same ammount of bugs. I highly doubt it. I personally hadn't had any problems on WON. Now i have steam that doesnt work 50% of the time and i get higher pings on all servers. AND lastly i get a stupid program that eats 40M Ram when it sits there while i browse on the internet. It also sometimes feels like installing 700MB on my HDD and then having the guts too ask me what i want too delete that i dont have anymore space on my harddisk.

Like i said Windows is an awsome invention but i hate it. Why because the bugs are a killer. But no one can challenge that Windows brought the computer too everyone's family and any halfa$$ed dumba$$ can use it. But it has soo many flaws and bugs that it makes it hated.

As a server administrator, i don't see how STEAM is such a bad thing.

LooooooooooooL

 

Ok how about server crashing at map change

 

How about the countless errors u get if u dont restart the server atleast 2wice a day. Errors that wherent there durring won. WON was really established and the bugs where fixable with off the market "unoficial" patches and tips/tricks.

 

Please dont tell me u dont get those cuz even the armory does.

Also have u ever tried too install it on Linux. It was imposible untill around December when they finally got out a patch. Its unnaceptable

the one thing i miss about won is that alot of my friends that played b4 have dial up connection.Now with steam they cant play.

unfortunatly dial up is their only option.

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As a server administrator, i don't see how STEAM is such a bad thing.

 

 

LooooooooooooL

Ok how about server crashing at map change

 

How about the countless errors u get if u dont restart the server atleast 2wice a day. Errors that wherent there durring won. WON was really established and the bugs where fixable with off the market "unoficial" patches and tips/tricks.

 

Please dont tell me u dont get those cuz even the armory does.

 

Also have u ever tried too install it on Linux. It was imposible untill around December when they finally got out a patch. Its unnaceptable

 

Countless errors if we don't restart the server twice a day? I havn't yet had to restart our server due to any kind of error. WON was established - and had just as many bugs, the only difference was that the bugs were much more severe to servers, and took months instead of days to fix. And don't just compare "Firearms" and steam; because this is about steam. not FA. The server crashes are a firearms bug - my FA Won server crashes the same way. And yes, i have attempted to install it on linux. I'm one of the server goons for a linux gaming server company; I know exactly what's going on there. It's not any more unacceptable than other things in life; Firearms has just as many/worse bugs than STEAM does, yet you're still here, playing FA; not telling pepole "We should go back to 2.8! That was the good RC! Things were more stable then!" ect Also, many of the STEAM bugs are fixable "with off the marker "unoffical" patches and tips/tricks." just to let you know

 

Exactly "BUGS" thats why steam blows. It can be really big but when i get game unavailable or when i cant start the fu--ing game it really gets frustrating. Sooo many bugs. And how can u say that WON HAD the same ammount of bugs. I highly doubt it. I personally hadn't had any problems on WON. Now i have steam that doesnt work 50% of the time and i get higher pings on all servers. AND lastly i get a stupid program that eats 40M Ram when it sits there while i browse on the internet. It also sometimes feels like installing 700MB on my HDD and then having the guts too ask me what i want too delete that i dont have anymore space on my harddisk.

When did you use the WON system? I was talking to people that were using the WON online system when HL first came on the market; and they told me that the bugs were just the same as they are now; I don't know how much truth this has; but they've never lied to me in the past. And just because you didn't know about the "bugs", doesn't mean they didn't "exist". You can also "close" the "stupid program" that easts 40MB ram when it sits there; and tell it never to update anything so it won't install 700MB onto your HD. And i'd disagree that windows sucks because it has "so many bugs." In my experiences, Windows is a fairly good program, that has a few security holes in it. Bugs? Not many of those. I don't recall having a honost-to-god windows bug since windows 95. And that was fixed very shortly after i got '95. And most people "hate windows", not because of the bugs windows causes; but because of the idea behind windows. Closed sourcing; what you don't know can't harm you; ect.

Countless errors if we don't restart the server twice a day? I havn't yet had to restart our server due to any kind of error. WON was established - and had just as many bugs' date=' the only difference was that the bugs were much more severe to servers, and took [b']months[/b] instead of days to fix. And don't just compare "Firearms" and steam; because this is about steam. not FA. The server crashes are a firearms bug - my FA Won server crashes the same way. And yes, i have attempted to install it on linux. I'm one of the server goons for a linux gaming server company; I know exactly what's going on there. It's not any more unacceptable than other things in life; Firearms has just as many/worse bugs than STEAM does, yet you're still here, playing FA; not telling pepole "We should go back to 2.8! That was the good RC! Things were more stable then!" ect Also, many of the STEAM bugs are fixable "with off the marker "unoffical" patches and tips/tricks." just to let you know

 

When did you use the WON system? I was talking to people that were using the WON online system when HL first came on the market; and they told me that the bugs were just the same as they are now; I don't know how much truth this has; but they've never lied to me in the past. And just because you didn't know about the "bugs", doesn't mean they didn't "exist". You can also "close" the "stupid program" that easts 40MB ram when it sits there; and tell it never to update anything so it won't install 700MB onto your HD. And i'd disagree that windows sucks because it has "so many bugs." In my experiences, Windows is a fairly good program, that has a few security holes in it. Bugs? Not many of those. I don't recall having a honost-to-god windows bug since windows 95. And that was fixed very shortly after i got '95. And most people "hate windows", not because of the bugs windows causes; but because of the idea behind windows. Closed sourcing; what you don't know can't harm you; ect.

I retract my earlier comments. Steam has become very very efficient!

this is so old 2004 heh

woo! i remember this thread! haha

I never really used won. Seems like too long ago that was in use. Anyways. i didn't have a decent computer until steam came out. I like how Steam is and it works for me.

 

Just realized how old this is, it's alright. everyone's opinion matters i guess

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