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footage from Fallujah

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tis not political !!! tis violent :D
What the heck, shut up Paradigm, It's not political at all. I love seeing the US soldiers be badass everywhere.
doesn't matter if it's political or notthey're in their, fighting for their lifes. You try telling one of those soldiers that what they're doing is wrongI am slightly opposed to the Iraqi war, but don't bring that in here.
Dear game developers, take note of the atmosphere in real combat and make games like this.eg: Look at all the smoke/dust accumlulating over combat zones
i wonder if what they were shooting at actually had anyone in it.. or if they just shoot whatever they see?
i wonder if what they were shooting at actually had anyone in it.. or if they just shoot whatever they see?

only if it mves or shoots back :twisted:
if it moves, shoot it. if it doesnt move, push it then shoot it.or in this case, imagine it moving.
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hopefully insurgency mod has something like this. Same effects and stuff.
hopefully insurgency mod has something like this. Same effects and stuff.

Yea, Insurgency Mod looks to have potential. 8)
this video is made for propaganda prupose, i have a "real" Falluja video on my comp and its not as "cool" as this
im not gonna start a flame war here, so i wont say anything.Nice vid tho. Really makes you want to pray for our guys out there.
k its not political

Its political unless I MYSELF decide that its not political.

And, becouse i didnt see it yet, its political.

:wink:

War is hell. Have just completed a grief counseling seesion with family members of a unit who lost 4 men. There is no honor and glory in war. It is a matter of survival...period. These guys and gals are doing a mission. They only have each other to depend on to get it done. Every veteran I have counseled who has been in combat is changed forever, and not all for the good. A WW2 vet I counsel wakes up EVERY NIGHT. It has been that way for him for 50 years! The question is not whether or not war is cool or can be transfered to pixels on a computer screen. The question is whether real brothers and sisters are giving their lives for a good policy or bad policy? Will a Muslim country, led by warlords for centuries, accept American democracy? We know now its not about nuclear weapons or al Quada. So what is the policy we are giving our children to die for in Iraq? President Bush and nearly all experts agree terrorism is a war that will never be "won." So how do we fight it? This is beyond "cool" or "realistic mod."
There is no honor and glory in war. It is a matter of survival...period.

I disagree.... to a point.

Now, when technology is as much part of the war as the man who wields it, sure, there is no honor in fighting. This method is too unpersonal, too dishonorable, one and hes enemy have not equal chances. Its plain butchery - a matter of who killes more. Who kills more people without names, nameless puppets. One shouldnt be concerned about them, shouldnt see them as humans, breathing, living beings, but a stray dogs, that only use for them is to be slain. Thats the view on war for last 100 years, but it started 200 - 300 years earlier (mostly with gunpowder warfare revolution).

Before those honorless times, there was a time that people were fighting honorably in a meaning, that they stood man-to-man, clashed their weapons physically and the better one won. Not the one who had better technology behind him, but skill, bravery and sometimes luck. THAT was honorable fighting. Each warrior gave another a chance of winning by facing him in a fight/duel.

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