Ahhhhh, the AWP!!! That is why I have lasted only about 7 seconds the two times I tried to play CS. I don't like CS but I don't think banning is good for any weapon. Look at FA, in durandal you get 4 M82's lined up in the tunnel and what do you do. Get a flash, sneak thru sewer and get them from behind. There are ways around like some say with patience and teamwork behind you.

Okay, I didn't ask for a flame war here. Any post I see from this point forward that contains the words "Duh!" or "Noob" or "Crybaby" is going to be DELETED like I did for Jimmy's. I wanted this to be a mature discussion, not a freakin' flamewar. If you guys can't behave like civilised peaple for more than a few seconds...

 

I find it odd that the peaple who are against the ban or limit don't play CSS as much as most of us who want to see it limited tho. And those who DO play CSS alot and want it limited, top the charts with the kills with the weapon.

 

Only reason I am in favor of it is because I HAVE used the weapon, and I KNOW how cheesy they are. My favored weapon without a doubt in CSS is the FAMAS. I have outsniped AUTOSNIPERS THEMSELVES with the dang thing. But when I pick up these weapons, the sheer cheesyness of how easy it is to kill with them is scary.

 

The weak point of this weapon is close to medium range combat. Here, the above mentioned counters work like a charm. Smoke and FB's on long range maps like Aztec and Italy are not a viable counter. There is enough distance from the smoke itself that the sniper has time to react. And if flashbangs aren't close enough (And often misthrown and blinds the attackers rushing anyway) the window of opportunity to get the blinded sniper is too short. It's just THESE TWO maps that I have this issue. Otherwise, I could care less about wiether or not it's limited on the rest of them.

 

The opinion is dead set against it seems however, but I will ask that if you do have an opinion, AT LEAST PLAY THE GAME AWHILE.

 

And no, we are not banning the AWP or the the M4 or the AK. These weapons are NOT cheesy. The AWP makes the player move slow and is cost prohibative. The M4 and the AK top the charts not because of their cheesyness, but because they are the MOST USED weapons due to their great balance between cost and effectiveness. (That was really a piss poor arguement bringing the M4 and AK into it to begin with)

Well, Deadroach. I play the game very frequently, I've used the autosnipers plenty of times. I see no reason why they should be banned. There is no hidden trend of people who don't play, who're against the ban. I see it as more of individual opinions, rather than breaking it down into "Banners" and "Non-banners". I restate my previous statement, that is; there is no reason to ban the Auto-sniper. It's not impossible to counter, both teams can use it. The guns should remain on the TAC server, there's no reason to remove them. My advice, if you cannot kill the man behind the gun, would be just to avoid them. Just go around, don't fight them.

 

 

You were saying on long-distance maps, it's a problem? Close the distance, just don't go where you can be out-gunned. Always go the CQB way, or camp if you choose to.

i dont like it, but there are ways around it, if the autosniper is banned, then its the awp...

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There's no reason to ban/limit them at all. There are plenty of servers that have them banned, play on those. We're killing our policies if we ban/limit them. The only reason (Besides the enviornment) I play on the TAC server is because there are no tactics or weapon rules. Banning them would kill what we strive for. (A fun gaming enviornment where players can play how they wish, without smacktards or excessive cussing)

for one i actaully agree with you sam. this is TAC. why would we ban or limit something. because its in the game? what b cell said, we have a set tradition against banning a weapon of anykind. that was a big precident. if we ban the autosniper then we MUST ban the m82/famas in FA. imo

 

-G

I gave the opportunity for regulars to come post here and offer their opinions. However, since it's evident that our regulars outside the clan (save a couple) love to complain in the game, but are too lazy to come here and post their opinion, they obviously don't care enough about seeing the gun limited.

 

My recomendation at this point is to leave it as it is. You don't like the rifle, deal with it. This does not agree with my personal feelings on the matter, but we are who we are afterall. And limiting a weapon works against what we have stood for.

 

Besides, it was oh so fun putting Disposable Hero in his place with one of these cheese rifles after he killed me camping MY SPAWN

camping your spawn was the objective choke point. and just cause i owned half your team by myslef... :roll:

All the more reason to give you a slug to the chest next round :o

 

Never said your tactic wasn't viable. Hell, I would of done it in your position. Doesn't mean I was happy seeing you own me and half my team. :o

BAN!

 

BAN ALL UVTHE AUTOSNIPER NEWBS!

I use the AS.... dont have a problem with it, i do however have a problem with whiners on the server... you interfere with my gameplay, one of TACs rules is not ti interfere with it.

guns=part of the game

 

killing a guy who has a glock is boring, killing a camper who has an autosniper is awesome cause you can say PWNT afterward and make him realize that he sat there just to get a bullet in his face

 

man cs is awesome :o

there is no skill involved with those guns

 

 

 

there is, however, skill involved in countering them. this became a big issue in regular CS. I see no problem guns are guns, if you can beat them thats too bad. just live with it. before you know it your team will be doing it to the other just the same. Leave all the weapons as they are, at most limit it to 5 per team. oh and auto snipers dont exist... what does exist is the ever beautiful HK-G3 and the Sig 550

 

one the G3 and Sig 550 can ONLY be used with a bipod staked to the ground to prevent recoil, two the recoil on both gun is INCREDIBLE in real life, though CSS is not in anyway realistic in its portrayal of any gun for that matter, three the Sig 550 is too heavy of a gun to carry alone standing thats why they put a carrying handle on the top of the gun so you can carry it from spot to spot, and finally if Valve were to include a prone feature then this game would be somewhat realistic, but aside from that i agree with roach IT NEEDS TO BE LIMITED ALOT at least to 1 per team.

 

and if you don't believe me about the guns heres a link.

 

http://remtek.com/arms/sig/sniper/550snip.htm

 

also within the link above contains most of the actual weapons found in CSS.

you must really hate this gun

getting killed is interfering with my gameplay

rofl

Autosnipers are just like every other gun in the game they take atleast some skill if u wanted to ban autosnipers then u would need to bad awps and then scouts and then aks and then before u know it all the guns are gone they were made for a reason to be used by people who chose to use them if u dont like do somewhere else. the only reason u guys dont like it is because u guys are getting owned by them.

BTW Disposable Hero i got your back on this one. your chill by me so u can use any gun u want. haha.

I think we should just vote, that it is a game. We should also discuss how, if you don't like the gun, make a better mod than CS:S without the gun and then there will be no complaining. Oh wait, what's this? No one has a better mod to give us right now? Oh, I guess that means we'll just have to use the guns the game creators put in the game for us to use.

BTW Disposable Hero i got your back on this one. your chill by me so u can use any gun u want. haha.

thanks, roughe

not all guns need to be banned, the autosnipers are just too damn annoying because they're so damn random at hitting things, at least with the rest if you put the crosshairs on something you'll hit it, but when you're behind a wall you shouldn't be able to get hit by an autosniper but you do.

Actually, the auto sniper rifles are accurate. The "random" shots comes from people shooting while the gun is still recoiling from the previous shot. Like any other weapon in the game, fast, repeated fire will lower your ability to fire accurately. I can get people in two back-to-back shots virtually every time, so it's not a problem of not being accurate.

 

I don't see a problem with the auto sniper rifles. Honestly, I'd be disappointed if we actually limited or banned their use on our server. And, not to sound rude, if you want to play on a server that doesn't allow for the AS, there are plenty out there already to choose from, or you can make your own.

just dont play at TAC if you dont want autosnipers, its simple. theres plenty of other servers out there.

GOD!!! I hate when someone calls a semi-automatic weapon a FULL AUTO!!!!!! Learn what full auto and semi auto?

 

Why isnt a H&K USP an automatic weapon??? Why isnt Glock an full automatic weapon??

 

And why is that weapon a auto???

 

Here is what semi-auto is

 

Semi-autos use part of the energy produced by burning cartridge powder to remove the used cartridge from the chamber, cock the hammer (or striker) and load a new cartridge in the chamber, so the gun will be ready for the next shot.

 

This is some info about SIG 550

 

Caliber: 5.56mm NATO (.223 Rem)

 

Action: Gas, semi-auto

 

Barrel lenght: 650 mm

 

Weight: 7,02 kg loaded with scope

 

Lenght: 1130 mm

 

Magazine: 5, 20 or 30 rounds detachable box.

 

SIG 550 Sniper is a "sniperized" variand of the famous Sig 550/Stg.90 assault rifle, manufactured by SAN Swiss Arms (former Sig Arms, now - a member of the SIGARMS group).

 

550 Sniper is a good short to medium military marksman rifle or police/antiterror rifle, capable of quick and accurate follow-up shots.

 

I repeat its an SEMI-AUTOMATIC weapon!!!!

 

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Honestly, take a deep breath or two. They're referred to as an "autosniper" because no one wants to type out "semi-automatic sniper rifle." Do you? Seeing as you like to type out unnecessary things (I got the hint from your overuse of ? and !), I'm sure it irks you that you're the only one that wants to type it all out. I know the difference; I like to be technical, too. But when dealing with the online world, I try to abide by the K.I.S.S. method.

yes, but many people dont know the difference.