No problem at all, totally understandable. I do have the latest drivers for both, I also tried rolling back drivers for the video card and trying Beta drivers. Sound card I let auto update, and is up to date, but i think I'll try removing it and seeing if/ what that will do. Windows is 64 bit. The only drivers that I have that are "out of date" would be my mobo drivers, I need to do some research as to how to flash the bios with win7. Don't know if that could be an issue. I also have SLI 8800 GTS', I've tried disabling SLI as well, to no avail.