I think we should give regular mode a try in CoD4 with the same setup as our Hardcore server. Our server doesn't seem to be popular with it dying out at prime gaming time. We should have one server Hardcore another server Regular. That way we will find out which one is more popular:)

Done. Let me know if you need anything else changed. It will be up in a few...

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So thats what you meant when you said the server was up...I still wish we had more domination...

I agree, we need to change it. If it will stop the whining about the Hardcore server, it would be worth it.

I can take a better look at the cycle a bit later. I like domination as well but were trying to make as many people happy as possible, I'll see what changes I can make in a bit.

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From your death bed to spamming the forum.

 

What a miraculous recovery. Glad you feel better bud.

I just played in the hardcore server for two hours during prime time and there were maybe three pub people that whole time.

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Thx Sharp:D

why didn't u guys make a poll before the server was changed. this may not even be wanted by the majority of the people

why didn't u guys make a poll before the server was changed. this may not even be wanted by the majority of the people

Well I can guarantee the majority of people don't like playing on empty servers with two other (=A=) players. I've never seen any of our servers full.... ever. Not once in weeks.

 

Obviously something needs to be done or we'll continue sitting around playing with five and six man servers

get rid of HQ, seach and destroy, sabotage

 

team deathmatch and domination are the favorite modes for hardcore.

get rid of HQ, seach and destroy, sabotage

 

team deathmatch and domination are the favorite modes for hardcore.

I think S&D and Sabotage are great modes, they can make for some great "action", I don't like HQ that much though(but I do need more points )

Well I can guarantee the majority of people don't like playing on empty servers with two other (=A=) players. I've never seen any of our servers full.... ever. Not once in weeks.

 

Obviously something needs to be done or we'll continue sitting around playing with five and six man servers

I gave a suggestion for the Hardcore TDM server. I gave multiple suggestions actually. I had shown, through multiple playtests on the server, that there was a demand for hardcore TDM and that players -- in particular (and almost exclusively) public players -- wanted Hardcore TDM, but the server settings needed to be modified for players to start coming in with any amount of regularity.

 

That thread received almost entirely negative responses from you guys. I told you in that thread why the server was empty, and what needed to be changed for the server to start getting populated because it's a popular gametype. You've only got to look at other servers to see what game modes are popular and what maps play well with what number of players. So that thread -- my thread -- was shot down immediately.

 

Yet here, we have a suggestion to change the server -- from a staff member -- and it immediately (Reply number 1) is done.

 

With all due respect, what the hell?

 

This is blatantly playing favourites. Words fail to express my disappointment right now. I'm astonished.

 

This post might sound like whining (qq i didnt get what i want), and all my posts supporting TDM might have sounded like whining, but nothing could be further from the truth.

 

As Underspy said, a poll would have been wise. Hell, even just letting more people post in here and express their opinions on it would have been better than changing the server within 3 minutes of the post.

 

HATE YOUR FACE!! Thx Sharp

I gave a suggestion for the Hardcore TDM server. I gave multiple suggestions actually. I had shown, through multiple playtests on the server, that there was a demand for hardcore TDM and that players -- in particular (and almost exclusively) public players -- wanted Hardcore TDM, but the server settings needed to be modified for players to start coming in with any amount of regularity.

 

That thread received almost entirely negative responses from you guys. I told you in that thread why the server was empty, and what needed to be changed for the server to start getting populated because it's a popular gametype. You've only got to look at other servers to see what game modes are popular and what maps play well with what number of players. So that thread -- my thread -- was shot down immediately.

 

Yet here, we have a suggestion to change the server -- from a staff member -- and it immediately (Reply number 1) is done.

 

With all due respect, what the hell?

 

This is blatantly playing favourites. Words fail to express my disappointment right now. I'm astonished.

 

This post might sound like whining (qq i didnt get what i want), and all my posts supporting TDM might have sounded like whining, but nothing could be further from the truth.

 

As Underspy said, a poll would have been wise. Hell, even just letting more people post in here and express their opinions on it would have been better than changing the server within 3 minutes of the post.

 

I tend to agree with your favoritism, see it all the time. But I think until they fix the server browser issue that it is going to be hard to find a setting htat will populate the server. There may be a fluke week when our server is listed in the browser at all times while having the least popular setting but still be packed, and while have the more popular server not shown on the list and be empty. And until the server browser gets fixed I don't really think 2 servers are a good idea, we need to focus on 1 server.

I gave a suggestion for the Hardcore TDM server. I gave multiple suggestions actually. I had shown, through multiple playtests on the server, that there was a demand for hardcore TDM and that players -- in particular (and almost exclusively) public players -- wanted Hardcore TDM, but the server settings needed to be modified for players to start coming in with any amount of regularity.

 

That thread received almost entirely negative responses from you guys. I told you in that thread why the server was empty, and what needed to be changed for the server to start getting populated because it's a popular gametype. You've only got to look at other servers to see what game modes are popular and what maps play well with what number of players. So that thread -- my thread -- was shot down immediately.

 

Yet here, we have a suggestion to change the server -- from a staff member -- and it immediately (Reply number 1) is done.

 

With all due respect, what the hell?

 

This is blatantly playing favourites. Words fail to express my disappointment right now. I'm astonished.

 

This post might sound like whining (qq i didnt get what i want), and all my posts supporting TDM might have sounded like whining, but nothing could be further from the truth.

 

As Underspy said, a poll would have been wise. Hell, even just letting more people post in here and express their opinions on it would have been better than changing the server within 3 minutes of the post.

 

It was mainly a suggestion i didn't expect it to change that quickly.

Favoritism? I really don't think so, the only reason I've seen people play on the TDM server was because the hardcore server was down for maintenance. The original goal of having a second server was to please the people who didn't like Hardcore mode. Everyone here wants their own individual goals met, that cannot happen or we would have 10 different servers running. The problem with this game is that there are too many options, there isn't a "typical" server configuration/ Trying to please everyone is obviously something that cannot be done easily, it honestly doesn't matter how good your configurations are when nobody can find your server on the list in the first place. You guys figure out what you want to do and I'll do it, but regardless of what we come up with people have to commit to playing on it. This whole process is worthless if people do not play on the servers because they didn't get exactly what they wanted. I've seen people threaten me to play on other servers if such and such isn't met, that's not the way to get things across. If I see people aren't utilizing the normal server, I'll change it to the Hardcore TDM settings that biscuit proposed originally (I'm not a fan of normal mode myself). The reason why I changed did it last night because I was tired and everyone was just going on and on about things that needed to be done. I'm sorry if you feel that i changed it because he was a staff member, but that's simply not true at all. The polls were working out in the beginning, but people didn't play on the servers if they didn't particularly like the changes made. This change was not made in 3 minutes either, there were about 7 of us in vent and they are the ones who suggested it. It was just posted as a matter of formality.

I gave a suggestion for the Hardcore TDM server. I gave multiple suggestions actually. I had shown, through multiple playtests on the server, that there was a demand for hardcore TDM and that players -- in particular (and almost exclusively) public players -- wanted Hardcore TDM, but the server settings needed to be modified for players to start coming in with any amount of regularity.

 

That thread received almost entirely negative responses from you guys. I told you in that thread why the server was empty, and what needed to be changed for the server to start getting populated because it's a popular gametype. You've only got to look at other servers to see what game modes are popular and what maps play well with what number of players. So that thread -- my thread -- was shot down immediately.

 

Yet here, we have a suggestion to change the server -- from a staff member -- and it immediately (Reply number 1) is done.

 

With all due respect, what the hell?

 

This is blatantly playing favourites. Words fail to express my disappointment right now. I'm astonished.

 

This post might sound like whining (qq i didnt get what i want), and all my posts supporting TDM might have sounded like whining, but nothing could be further from the truth.

 

As Underspy said, a poll would have been wise. Hell, even just letting more people post in here and express their opinions on it would have been better than changing the server within 3 minutes of the post.

 

I dont really think that there is a favortism thing here, just think something was said at just the right time . PPl where frustrated and a post got put in at that time. I did read your tweaks post right now and i did see some very good suggestions. I dont think it is possible to do the message spaming right now but i could be wrong. As far as a poll i find them to be useless because you put them up and ppl make there comments and you get 20 different awnsers or they turn into a arguement over one persons post, just my oppinion but you know whatt they say about that. that being said you are probably right maybee more time should of been given to allow ppl to post. the beauty of oour servers is they can be changed . yall souold get togeather figure out what yall want as a group and let us know. by us i mean Sharp or Gator. I dont like tdm and dont have any desire to play it , so I dont really care what the configuation is.

Favoritism? I really don't think so, the only reason I've seen people play on the TDM server was because the hardcore server was down for maintenance.

favoritism [fey-ver-i-tiz-uhm, feyv-ri-]-noun1. the favoring of one person or group over others with equal claims

 

This is exactly what we have here. I made suggestions based on what I've observed and of collective opinion (I imagine that's what Ding did too). Yet, my suggestion didn't get even considered, but Ding's is, as we speak, in effect. Even if others were in Vent, so it was more than just Ding, my suggestion was not even put into effect or really considered at all. It was shot down and ignored.

 

Second point, on people playing when Server 1 is down for maintenance -- this was the case on day one and part of day two. For the afternoon/evening of day two, some of us went and got the server started up and had quite a few public players join.

 

The original goal of having a second server was to please the people who didn't like Hardcore mode.

And no one played in it. Those people that "don't like it", still play in the HC server.

 

Everyone here wants their own individual goals met, that cannot happen or we would have 10 different servers running. Trying to please everyone is obviously something that cannot be done easily, it honestly doesn't matter how good your configurations are when nobody can find your server on the list.

If we all wanted individual goals met, we'd all find a server that already had those settings and invite members to play on it. I gave my suggestions because that's what the pubbies wanted. That is what many clan members agreed on the very first night of playing on it. That is what damn near EVERYONE who actually played on the server wanted. I gave up going to other servers to try to more extensively playtest our server. I had success, but the problems listed in that thread were the ones that really stuck out to me and the players that joined me.Every time I do a server search, I've always had one of the Armory servers pop up. This further solidifies the claims that people (pubbies) don't like the settings.

 

I think what people want is what we already have: one server. Hardcore Mixed.

 

You know what we've done?

 

Original setup: 2 servers - HC Mixed and Regular Mixed.

 

Modified setup: 2 servers - HC Mixed and HC TDM.

 

Current setup: 2 servers - HC Mixed and Regular Mixed.

 

In every situation, the Regular Mixed server remained vacant. Also in every situation, the HC Mixed server only had players when Armory guys were in it. I think this pretty clearly shows that THE PUBLIC doesn't dig the settings.

 

I didn't bother with the HC TDM server after the thread got shot down. I'm not gonna play on a server on which I, and those who play with me, don't like the settings. So after a few days, I stopped bothering.

 

Right now, we've simply gone back to what we had originally. Where's the logic in that?

 

On the subject of switching to my suggested settings: don't bother. There's no sense in putting it on if clan members don't want it and won't play it.

 

Stick with one server. That's all you lot play on. Save yourselves money.

The issue here is, it's going to hard to fill up two servers no matter how tweaked out your configuration is. According to game-monitor, there are currently a total of 35,076 people playing with a total of 214,458 player slots available. According to a post on the official IW forums, the reason why the server browser isn't working is because IW didn't plan on being this sheer volume of servers available. It seems that we are tending to all play on one server anyway because it's a lot more fun, that doesn't mean we cannot rotate the server we decide to start up though. I have a text file with all the different server configs so it's relatively easy to change them, I put it to normal because there are those who do not like to play Hardcore mode, but it they prefer to just play on other servers when ours is up we can just switch to to Hardcore TDM so it's at least getting used up. I'm not going to change it until people give their thoughts/opinions here. People will get confused if the server is changing everyday.

why didn't u guys make a poll before the server was changed. this may not even be wanted by the majority of the people

that "majority" underspy, i never saw more than 3 of em on the server.. (those who voted)

Server was changed back, lets see if we can get it filled tonight. Biscuit had a good point, I forgot we tried normal before and it wasn't very successful, people would rather play elsewhere.

Just FYI..

 

the server is empty because of the POS server browser.. not because people dont want to play on it., but they simply cant find the damn thing..

 

As i said in the above post.. of that 75% of whatever of the 20 people who voted in that thread.. you, and 1 other i ever saw playing.. no-one is ever going to be 100% happy 100% of the time.. there is no favoritism biscuit.. far from it..

 

but i do think its selfish to say that it is biscuit, that because your idea.. or 1 idea wasnt implimented..

 

there are a total of 240 different combinations if gameplay including the 16 maps (hardcore, oldschool, normal etc)

 

so lets justr buy 240 servers... If you look at the combinations of just the different game modes.. 4 game modes.. looking at all possibilities there you have a server with all 4, 3 different game modes, 2 different game modes or just 1.. that looks to me like there are 10 different combinations of just gamemodes on the same map..

 

the armory always has tried to please the majority... We had a TDM server for a while and i didnt see either you underspy or you biscuit on it once.. we had ONLY a team deathmatch server for about 4 days and i still didnt see either of you..