and USA lost about 15 M1's in Iraq

and will you never learn.. truth about iraqi war, iraqi T-72 was not iquipd with night sights, and they warent in best shape+ iraqis were veryyyy **** crews

plus abrams are very expensive to build and to maintance

I have details of T-90S:s armor tests in one Finnish military magazine.. And they say that T-90S:s Front turret and hull can stand hit from best NATO AT SABOT from close range.. (it was less than 1km.. maybe 500 or 100m.. i think 100m..) And these guys dont want the Russian stuff to look good, it was just the way it is..

of the 15 whats the count from FF?also DS was i dunno, maybe 13 years ago. Things have changed.

i dunno i just know its around 15

-Snauhi]and USA lost about 15 M1's in Iraq

In Desert Storm 1, I know the US lost one to friendly fire and 1 other to a T-72(the crew survived however)

Yeah but they were all from friendly fire, continous RPG attacks, and car bombs.

 

Haven't you heard about the problems the T-90 has been having Chechnya?

The T-90S is a great tank but the Challenger ll outperforms it.

t-90 is so ass tank... so f***** up... russia sucks anyway so how could they build goos tanks :twisted:EDIT by Fatty: How many times do you have to be told "watch your language" before you remember it?

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In Desert Storm 1, I know the US lost one to friendly fire and 1 other to a T-72(the crew survived however)

Yeah but they were all from friendly fire, continous RPG attacks, and car bombs.

 

Haven't you heard about the problems the T-90 has been having Chechnya?

The T-90S is a great tank but the Challenger ll outperforms it.

T90s dint have a single loss in chechnya. Russia dint have a single tank loss in the second chechen war

and Pervis wtf do you know about tanks??

M1 is great tank but it cost a lot

I know everything about tanks bro...

I like the Abrahms tank it pwns

t-90 is so ass tank... so f***** up... russia sucks anyway so how could they build goos tanks

 

 

EDIT by Fatty: How many times do you have to be told "watch your language" before you remember it?

I know everything about tanks bro...

Yes, you made that VERY obvious in your first post

 

Challenger 2 by far is the best tank there is, no matter who made it

now, wanna go onto Helicopters?

One of the Abrams tanks that was disabled in DS has a neat story.The T-72 was hull down and they didn't see it as they drove by. It scored a direct hit to the rear ammo compartment. Fortunately the abrams has that nice ammo ejection system. So in 1/2 second, the onboard computer turned the turret 90 degrees from the chasis facing, and ejected the ammo up and down into the sand as it exploded. Heh.... they still had one round in the breech. They turned around, took 2 more hits from the T-72 that hit the reactive armor and did nothing, drove up nice and close to make damn sure they couldn't miss, and fired the last round right into the turret, killing the T72.

The Challenger ll is the best tank in teh world.You haven't given me any reliable facts to make join your side about the T-90I know a lot about military etc.The T-90 has flaws in its armor. Those flaws are starting to get exploited.

where is it getting exploited?

Certain areas on its side and its rear is more vulnerable than some tanks

i know but where in the world?

you cant just all say, challenger the best tank,challenger only faced weak res from iraqis, same thing with M1's, USA had TOTAL air control, jets took lost of tanks.M1 and chan only faced OLD T-72's and OLD T-55's. i think T90 is good because its doing a gj in Chechnya.It dint have a single loss there.

Wait do you really think that the Chechens have anything better than T-72?let alone a T-55Hell I don't even think the Chechens have tanksAlso T-90's haven't been heavily used in Chechnya. Its mostly the T-80U BARS and assorted APC's like the BMP-3 and BTR-90

what in my last post i meant iraqias

i know.

we are posting very fast