Me and my friend keep arguing over this... I'm a strong supporter of HL and he's a Xbox player... Plz include reasons why ! Personnally... I would have to say Doom 3. It's been too long since the last doom came out and I'm really not sure where they are going with it... could be just good graphics and bad gameplay

a bad game meaning junk? or a bad game meaning kick butt?.. if you want to know wich game has the best chance to be junk.. let me give you one word to think about that should answer your question "Steam" without it the game should have at least blown halo 2 away.. with it.. you may as well dig your eyes out with a spoon because you wont ever see it work quite right... of corse thats just my opinion im sure someone out there actually likes steam.. but then again someone out there likes Kenny-G too..

Well I believe HL2 is going to be the worst only because of STEAM not only because of the problems that are present now but look they are starting to try advertising already and really screwing pings up. They're loading crap on your machine thats not wanted by some of us and you cannot even delete them either. I'd rant some more but got to get back to work. and jasun your are dead wrong no one in their right mind would like Kenny-G

I prefer hl2 because games are most beautifull and playable on pc and i don't like enough the shoot'em up games... Only online is best !Egidio.

i prefer HL2 becuse i'm a PC person, but i also like Halo (X-bos is the only console that i like), i think that FPS's are better on the computer the 2 thumb stick format of consles is inferior to the mouse & keyboard

Doom 3 indefinatlyFrom what i hear, it just sounds like the folks at id are too much set on graphics and sound. I have yet to hear anything new in the graphics or storyline department. Basically, from what I've gather, they're just remaking the orignal with better graphicsOh, and you can't beat on hl2 because of STEAM man, that's just stupid. B/c steam has nothing to do with the Single Player.

HL2 is going to be most likely on steam. I hoped steam will clear their act together after a couple of updates but they didnt. The idea of Steam type program for multiplayer gaming is awsome because everything is more organized. But as some of u said they put junk on ur computer giving u big big problems and making it pretty much unable to play a single player game without actualy connecting to the internet (that is not my problem but other people have it) also you could tell me ya if u play single player go on won but the problem is that these new updates that come out for CS etc are based on steam. Going back to the subject i voted HL2 because of a couple of reasons. Remember when CZ was announced 2 years ago everyone was so enthusiast about it and on every forum that had gaming ties this was the most used word u would see in topics CZ. Now 2 years later and 500 realease dates postpones later it appeared on the market. How many of u are going to buy it or how many of u read the review and got REALLY dissapointed. They say one thing and they do another. Thats the problem with valve. I am afraid that they will postpone the april release date if they didnt do that already. Who knows maybe they did i am not sure. HL 2 has the biggest problem because it is expected to be the next best thing and it usualy might be a dissapointment. Look at BF:vietnam it was expected to be this super game and allot of people dont like it now because their standards for this game was really high(ME NOT INCLUDED). The only game that actualy was super cool was in recent memory GTA:VC because they announced it just before they released it making people talk about it 24/7 untill it came out. These are all marketing features that can change our opinion about a game if the idea is new. If ur waiting for a GD game for 2 years u will have a huge Expectancy for that game and most of the time they are exagerating the game making u believe its the BEST thing. After a time when they actualy realeased it u noticed that u waited 2 years for nothing. To end this i have to say 1 more thing. No sequel will be as good as its predecesor. Quake I vs Quake II vs Quake III (think about that).PS: Notice how the poll has only Sequels.

To end this i have to say 1 more thing. No sequel will be as good as its predecesor. Quake I vs Quake II vs Quake III (think about that).

Thats a very good point ManoWar. i HIGHLY doubt that Half-Life 2 will bring in as much awards/players as the origional. Half-Life is a great game, thats it.

Remember when CZ was announced 2 years ago everyone was so enthusiast about it and on every forum that had gaming ties this was the most used word u would see in topics CZ. Now 2 years later and 500 realease dates postpones later it appeared on the market. How many of u are going to buy it or how many of u read the review and got REALLY dissapointed. They say one thing and they do another. Thats the problem with valve. I am afraid that they will postpone the april release date if they didnt do that already. Who knows maybe they did i am not sure. HL 2 has the biggest problem because it is expected to be the next best thing and it usualy might be a dissapointment. Look at BF:vietnam it was expected to be this super game and allot of people dont like it now because their standards for this game was really high(ME NOT INCLUDED).

1)Valve had close to nothing to do with CZ, so because it's a bad game, doesn't mean Hl2 will be a bad one too.

Hl2 has been in the works for 5 years, if it bombs it'll be the end of Valve. But, of course, it won't bomb. This is the sequal to the (arguably, but I'd say it IS) the greatest PC game of all time, like c'mon. When Half-Life was released, it had little to no hype. Hl2 has hype, and now more people know about Hl2 than Hl, which means bigger sales.

Also, STEAM won't have anythign to do with Half Life 2 besides Pre-Orders and the Multiplayer. So you basically install the game (if you bought it from the store) and play the single player without ever havign to glance at STEAM. And trust me, people won't be buying Hl2 just for the multiplayer

True.....BUT. And there is a BUT. My CZ is to show that if you keep a game in production for allong time people will idolize that game untill its released. And let me tell you if that game has 1 glitch then everyone is going to consider it JUNK. Mock my words man cuz thats the problem that valve doesnt understand.

The issues with Steam have soured my Attitude toward Valve. While the features of Steam are nice, the bad programing (shoot, HL still crashes on my system) makes me leery of anything else Valve puts out. Id software has always made a solid product. While sometimes it's not always up to the hype, the games have usually been (in my experiance) stable and fun to play.Halo 2 I have no opinion of.

You guys CANNOT say that STEAM is a factor of HL2 being a worse game, simply because it'll also be using steam. Steam's a way to play online, nothing more; nothing less. It's like saying Halo 2 for an xbox is a horrible game, because it's using Xbox Live. And, honestly, if you're having problems with Steam, you're probably not going to be able to play HL2, Doom3, or Halo 2 anyway. I've got 3 high-end systems and i've had one problem with steam for one of the computers, and that's when it was the 500KB file.

 

And i think HL2/doom3/Halo 2 are all going to be equally as good/bad.

how many of you can honestly say that you are not drooling at the posibility of mod/multiplayer for HL2? i bet not that many. multiplayer is a HUGE factor in games like this otherwise replay value, is just not there. STEAM, for that reason has to be a factor in this. D3 wil be fun but nothing new just a bit prettier and scarier sounding. Halo 2 will rock but i dont even think its in the same as games like Far Cry and Halo2 simply because, IT IS A DIFFERENT PLATFORM

 

Steam is a factor on the type of game that HL2 is because it controlls distribution of patches/multiplayer mods how can all of that not be a factor?

and besides he did not ask "which game is going to suck the worst based just on single player" he asked why WILL so and so game suck.

 

cyborgs are cool

killing aliens is fun

Demons freak me out

 

and....

 

Gen.ManoWar] Mock my words man.

i will LOL

Thing is man, I'm not drawing just off my Steam experiance, I'm drawing off my experiance with Halflife as well. That game has never been stable on my system. Fun to play, yes, tons. But the Quake series was a helluva alot more stable on my systems.

I've got 3 high-end systems and i've had one problem with steam for one of the computers, and that's when it was the 500KB file.

true, I don't see what all the fuss over Steam is, I've had 1 or 2 problems, but that's it, and they were both EASILY fixed.

 

Thing is man, I'm not drawing just off my Steam experiance, I'm drawing off my experiance with Halflife as well.

and I'm sorry to say DeadRoach, but if your computer can't run Halflife (a game from 1998) smoothly, unplugged it, take it outside, and burn it...because you won't be able to play any games from here on in.

Get prepared for the FPS revolution boyz, it's coming fast

I believe Doom 3 just because I have seen some gameplay footage from 2 of the 3 games up there and HL2 seemed very sophisticated. H2 seemed kind of basic, still running around and shooting.