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Personally I am against it. To me it just seems non-constitutional.

I dunno. Whats your input?

mmm, as long as they dont come up with such a law here...But they kinda have a point, but p2p networks are not illegal, it is just like they can be used fore illegal things. But if you start going this way, you can also ban cash, it is used to fund illegal opperations or guns, illegal shootings and crime. But that is just my 2 cents

Cars are used to transport drugs and for purposes related to prostitution etc.. etc.. etc..Does that mean we will have to ban the automobile?

Lol, they cant ban that, for the Cyberspace (just as antarctica) is common.

Its a metophorical question. The car is common and useful but it is used for illegal purposesjust as well. The thing is that P2P is just as common and useful however it used for illegal purposes and they want to BAN it because it used for illegal purposes.Its a perfect illustration.

Barely anything on p2p networks is legal.

Banning P2P would ban things like BitTorrent and various other P2P networks that are usedto speed up downloads outside of KaZaa, Morpheus, etc.. etc.. etc..

Heh, the only thing this will do is prevent P2P companies from being located in the USA. I mean seriously, do they really think they can stop people from downloading P2P software? :lol:BTW, I downloaded my 1st song ever off the internet today. I got it for free with my Big Mac Meal yesterday I dunno, being in the software industry tends to change your perception of this kind of thing, especially for larger stuff, like $1000 software packages. The people that get burned by piracy are the behind the scene "doers". Truck drivers transporting stuff, minimum wage people operating the CD fabricaters etc... trust me, the rich people take their share. So using the excuse "Oh no, superstar so-and-so can't get his million dollar house this month" is not valid, because what is really happening is "Oh no, average Joe Truck Loader doesn't go from 10 dollars to 12 dollars an hour this year", which is a hell of alot different then the perception most people have towards who piracy really hurts.

Well put Orion! You know what they say.. What goes around COMES around

well kazaa is base outside of the us so it would only prevent the us citizens from using it. but those that do share music and other stuff on kazaa that do live in the us would have a good law suite against the government for infringing on there first amendment right to free speach and free press. is like saying if u ban the instant messenger programs then the same thing would apply there where its the right to assemble.

What are you talking about? Free speech and freedom of press has nothing to do with P2P networks. And instant messengers aren't at all similar. Right to assemble? Seriously, what are you talking about?

Beats me. My second personality is even more mysterious than my first j/k

It's times like these I'm glad I live in Canadathey threw out a bill or whatever in Canada saying you can't download music, so we canadians can basically download all we want without having to worry about those pesky industries getting our ip

KaZaa threw a counter-suit a year or two ago for illegally reverse engineering theirP2P client to obtain the IPs of people

if u read the firs amendment it doesn't say where u can meet its a broad amendment.

well you seethe first amendment was made so long ago, it just wasn't made for the stuff we have nowadaysit's time for a new amendment!

I saw them do it with the bible but I never thought I'd see the day when people would trashthe constitution and bill of rights because its old fashioned. lolI'll start the new constitution.1) Freedom to control gas prices through the roof so the president can purchase his new Ferrari

The first amendment doesn't say it's legal for you to download music off kazaa. Why would want to meet someone over kazaa anyway? And you aren't even meeting.Also, please explain what freedom of press has to do with any of this?

Just for the reference...

 

Amendment I

 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That's funny. It has absolutely nothing to do with p2p networks.

after a supream court rulling last year ISP's arnt allowed to give out ip adress's or the identitys of thier customers anymore.

Yes, I know but do authorities have to get a warrent to get this information?

if they have good reasons they can get a warrent.But I don't think downloading songs is a good enough reason

Even so, what about albums/vinyls? I would really rather buy an old vinyl, than a new CD. Can't loose it so easily basically. Now, seeing as I already OWN this, does it give me access to use the .MP3 I found ON THE INTERNET, for personal use, while I do not use it? Think about it. I have legally aquired "Panama" By Van Halen. Why can't I get it off the net because a record player isn't that movable??

You're allowed to have a copy of your stuff as long as you don't let anyone else have it. I don't think they'd go crazy on you just because you have vinyl instead of CD.