NASCAR is a lot more strategy when to pit when to pass how much gas what kind of tires what pressure teh car setup ectthe car and the stratgey wins the race the driver isnt as important (not saying its easy or he does nothing but no teh most important)in F1 and open wheeled cars its a lot more of the driver (setup is important to but it doesnt win races) the driver has to beable to push the car as far as it can go without crashing or spinning it. all the turns are different he has to be able to judge them and be able to hit them going as fast as the car can take itin nascar the turn is almost identicall track to track so he knows how to take it F1 goes from big sweepers to hair pins and s's

NASCAR is a lot more strategy when to pit when to pass how much gas what kind of tires what pressure teh car setup ectthe car and the stratgey wins the race the driver isnt as important (not saying its easy or he does nothing but no teh most important)in F1 and open wheeled cars its a lot more of the driver (setup is important to but it doesnt win races) the driver has to beable to push the car as far as it can go without crashing or spinning it. all the turns are different he has to be able to judge them and be able to hit them going as fast as the car can take itin nascar the turn is almost identicall track to track so he knows how to take it F1 goes from big sweepers to hair pins and s's

in nascar the turn is almost identicall track to track so he knows how to take it

Untrue statement. Even on the "Ovals" the turns are rarely the same all around, and require a different approach for each turn. Also makes for challenge in the setup keeping it as neutral as possible, for different types of turns. All you said about Nascar, and its setups and what not is true, it makes it more of a "Team" sport, because if one guy doesn't do his job, then the whole team suffers the consequences. Maybe thats part of what appeals to me, the team work that goes into an entire weekend of racing. Again, I don't think F1 or Cart, or any racing for that matter sucks, hell, if its racing, I like it! I just prefer Nascar....

 

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in nascar the turn is almost identicall track to track so he knows how to take it

Untrue statement. Even on the "Ovals" the turns are rarely the same all around, and require a different approach for each turn. Also makes for challenge in the setup keeping it as neutral as possible, for different types of turns. All you said about Nascar, and its setups and what not is true, it makes it more of a "Team" sport, because if one guy doesn't do his job, then the whole team suffers the consequences. Maybe thats part of what appeals to me, the team work that goes into an entire weekend of racing. Again, I don't think F1 or Cart, or any racing for that matter sucks, hell, if its racing, I like it! I just prefer Nascar....

 

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NASCAR just seems like it takes a lot less skill, and it's more boring to watch a bunch of cars gor round in an oval. Formula 1 has some pretty cool tracks. But rally car tracks put tham all to shame. Formula 1 and rally car take more driver skill as well as a finely tuned machiene to get around the course. Come on, who can argue with this...

 

 

NASCAR just seems like it takes a lot less skill, and it's more boring to watch a bunch of cars gor round in an oval. Formula 1 has some pretty cool tracks. But rally car tracks put tham all to shame. Formula 1 and rally car take more driver skill as well as a finely tuned machiene to get around the course. Come on, who can argue with this...

 

 

Nascar does not take any less skill, and one would be silly to think so. It takes much more than turning left, and putting your foot down to get around the tracks, and to state otherwise shows ones lack of knowledge in Nascar. Its really pointless to argue here, F1 and Nascar, and any racing for that matter, has there own set of required skills, and no one is any more special than the other. So, with that, I'm done arguing dumb points, of which is better.... ("my racing is better than yours".... "no, mine is better than yours".... yada yada yada....) :roll: TFD

Nascar does not take any less skill, and one would be silly to think so. It takes much more than turning left, and putting your foot down to get around the tracks, and to state otherwise shows ones lack of knowledge in Nascar. Its really pointless to argue here, F1 and Nascar, and any racing for that matter, has there own set of required skills, and no one is any more special than the other. So, with that, I'm done arguing dumb points, of which is better.... ("my racing is better than yours".... "no, mine is better than yours".... yada yada yada....) :roll: TFD

hmm, I don't remember NASCAR drivers trying to race over icy hills (see above picture). Sorry but i must admit i have a hard time believing that driving an oval takes more skill than driving on the above tracks. I'm not saying that NASCAR is easy, just saying that I appreciate Rally Car more.

hmm, I don't remember NASCAR drivers trying to race over icy hills (see above picture). Sorry but i must admit i have a hard time believing that driving an oval takes more skill than driving on the above tracks. I'm not saying that NASCAR is easy, just saying that I appreciate Rally Car more.

the point i was trying to make is that in nascar that the turns are not the same but are very similar (yes it verys from ovals to tri ovals) but that there are no sharp turnsthey are all high speed banked oval turns (yes there are exceptions like the trac in new york which i cant rember the name) in f1 ive seen 270 and straight aways that go into turn that you cant take at 20mphthe point im trying to make is in f1 the driver needs to be more versitile he needs to be able to see a wide varity of turns and know how to take themin nascar there is not a wide varity or a wide variety of ways to take themin f1 theres much more choices on driving made by the driverand yes i like rally but its hard to relate to cause ive never driven that waybut they do have tons of skill

the point i was trying to make is that in nascar that the turns are not the same but are very similar (yes it verys from ovals to tri ovals) but that there are no sharp turnsthey are all high speed banked oval turns (yes there are exceptions like the trac in new york which i cant rember the name) in f1 ive seen 270 and straight aways that go into turn that you cant take at 20mphthe point im trying to make is in f1 the driver needs to be more versitile he needs to be able to see a wide varity of turns and know how to take themin nascar there is not a wide varity or a wide variety of ways to take themin f1 theres much more choices on driving made by the driverand yes i like rally but its hard to relate to cause ive never driven that waybut they do have tons of skill

Each one has it's own merits, but when you look at the big picture, F1 has more powerful engines, lighter cars, and more difficult tracks than NASCAR. Sure NASCAR requires some good engineering because they have to make the car as fast as possible within the defined rules that have been set down, but F1 has those types of rules as well, and I contend that the F1 rules are more strict. F1 also takes into account road condition, atmospheric conditions, elevation, and a slew of other variables, so to say that NASCAR is more complex is not true. F1 requires strategy just like NASCAR. I saw a race where the number 1 car lost because he ran out of gas 100 meters before the finish line. They push the limits on how much fuel they need in order to make the car as light as possible. Also, I agree with F1 getting boring as of late. It seems that almost every race is Michael Schumacher coming in first and Rubens Barichello in second for the Ferrari team. 8) But hey, you get what you put in. Ferrari has the big bucks and it shows with those awesome machines that they run.

 

Rally racing is on it's own since it takes a lot out of a car to go that fast in such a rough environment. LeMans is cool too. No better way to beat up a car than to push its limits for 24 hours.

 

P.S. I love the Subaru Impreza.

 

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But you gotta love all the crashes in NASCAR.

 

I remember that they did a thing where a Formula 1 driver and a NASCAR driver both switched seats. I think Juan Pablo Montoya of the the Williams-BMW team switched spots with Jeff Gordon to do a comparison. Jeff Gordon was talking like he couldn't believe the driving experience he just had, but Montoya seemed a little unimpressed with NASCAR; almost seemed like he was struggling for good things to say and most of them weren't about NASCAR specifically. 8) It's so easy to tell these things on TV rather than a transcript of what they said. Below are some news articles I found about the thing.

 

http://www.jeffgordon.com/news/2003/pr/06-11-2003/JG8112/

I don't see Montoya saying "Wow!" after driving NASCAR. http://www.autosushi.com/autosport/formulaone/tradinpaint.htm

Each one has it's own merits, but when you look at the big picture, F1 has more powerful engines, lighter cars, and more difficult tracks than NASCAR. Sure NASCAR requires some good engineering because they have to make the car as fast as possible within the defined rules that have been set down, but F1 has those types of rules as well, and I contend that the F1 rules are more strict. F1 also takes into account road condition, atmospheric conditions, elevation, and a slew of other variables, so to say that NASCAR is more complex is not true. F1 requires strategy just like NASCAR. I saw a race where the number 1 car lost because he ran out of gas 100 meters before the finish line. They push the limits on how much fuel they need in order to make the car as light as possible. Also, I agree with F1 getting boring as of late. It seems that almost every race is Michael Schumacher coming in first and Rubens Barichello in second for the Ferrari team. 8) But hey, you get what you put in. Ferrari has the big bucks and it shows with those awesome machines that they run.

 

Rally racing is on it's own since it takes a lot out of a car to go that fast in such a rough environment. LeMans is cool too. No better way to beat up a car than to push its limits for 24 hours.

 

P.S. I love the Subaru Impreza.

 

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But you gotta love all the crashes in NASCAR.

 

I remember that they did a thing where a Formula 1 driver and a NASCAR driver both switched seats. I think Juan Pablo Montoya of the the Williams-BMW team switched spots with Jeff Gordon to do a comparison. Jeff Gordon was talking like he couldn't believe the driving experience he just had, but Montoya seemed a little unimpressed with NASCAR; almost seemed like he was struggling for good things to say and most of them weren't about NASCAR specifically. 8) It's so easy to tell these things on TV rather than a transcript of what they said. Below are some news articles I found about the thing.

 

http://www.jeffgordon.com/news/2003/pr/06-11-2003/JG8112/

I don't see Montoya saying "Wow!" after driving NASCAR. http://www.autosushi.com/autosport/formulaone/tradinpaint.htm