The Famas. A controversial issue that has endured through many releases of Firearms. Used by the elite of FA and those new to FA. Thought to be the devil by many, often defended by others. Your thoughts?For me, I consider it to be the most unbalanced weapon in Firearms. Statistically on our server, it nearly has double the amount of kills then the second ranked weapon. In game, if you are doing poorly, you can always grab full armor and a famas. This will easily bring your score back to an acceptable level. Why is this? Well its a combination of a few things.Firstly, the Famas magazine capacity is twenty-five rounds. Nothing out of the ordinary, the median magazine capacity in comparison to the G3A3 and AK47. Next is the very high rate of fire, which out does much of the competition. Accuracy is good, though a little low compared to other assualt rifles. At the cost of thirteen credits, players are able to purchase full heavy armor. This cost is actually quite low for what the weapon is capable of.Now at close range, it easily out does the competition with the very high ROF and damage values compared to any other weapon. Though an SMG can compete with its ROF, the damage for the famas out does the SMG in all situations. Magazine capacity ranks right up there with the SMGs as well. Considering cost and traditional styles of gameplay, the SMG user will have to compete with full heavy armor from the famas user. To deal with the Famas, one must use surprise and quick manual clay triggers.Medium range is where this gun really out does its counterparts. Though some choose to flip the switch to single shot at this range, many just rock and roll with full auto on. Surprisingly, full auto is pretty effective at medium range due to minimum recoil. Though you won't get multiple kills on full auto like this, it is more than likely that at least the initial target will go down. Assualt rifle users of other kinds will be forced to switch to single shot in order to accurately shoot back at someone at medium range. Famas has it beat here. Once the Famas starts to hit you, even though it may just be a little, the single shot return fire will be very unaccurate and uneffective due to the shake. You can't spray and hope for the best, so your only option is to escape and evade - that is unless the famas already killed you. The point of the matter is, the famas is effective at medium range with full auto - and most of the time rendering your single shot return fire useless.Many will point out that the damage is a lot less than many other weapons. But this really doesn't matter. Once you start to hit a player, damage is unimportant because that player will find it extremely hard to return accurate fire. And even then the famas is just several points behind its competitors. Plus, full auto at medium range increases the chance of gaining a headshot - which is usually one hit kill for most AR's.Long range is no exception with the famas. Of course you will have to use single shot, but so do all guns at this range. Recoil plays a huge part here (not more so than at medium range where it is essential). Acceptable accuracy and little recoil make follow up shots very quick and easy - unlike any other weapon in the game (well accept dragunov, but that is a different story). The same idea from the previous paragraph applys to this situation as well. Once the famas starts damaging you, it is very hard to return single shot fire accurately. Best bet is to take cover and try to surprise the person.At all ranges, the famas has proven it self very worthy and effective. Unfortunately, this issue appears to be unchanged with the nearing release of 3.0. Plus, it looks as if it may gain nomenclature compatability. A question that I have pondered for some time was whether or not the Famas was tailored specifically to be the best in FA (or atleast a top weapon if you don't agree). But that is an enitrely different issue and theory of mine that is even more interesting. Talk to me on MSN or vent to know more about that one... 8)

I found the G3A3 to be the Famas counterpart. It is VERY effective at medium-long ranges. Slower ROF, but still accurate.

ahh good points sharp. very. its 5 am so im not gonna put a big long page like you. ima just say you forgot the reload. many a times have i faced a famas. and out jumped my opponent, making us both reload. but the otehr person reloads faster than just about any gun in fa. even the uzi. but not as fast as ak47 with nomo. but pretty damn fast. that adds to its unbalancedness. and about the last thing you put..... i believe we have had MANY discussions about that specific issue. even with me you and cow. you know what i think-G

Hey look, I am zooming at long range with my G36... and I am outsniped by a Famas.Yep, it's broke.More recoil and less dammage so it becomes a fair weapon.

agreed with all here. I am a sniper, hence the name, i use the ssg. When I get taken down by a famas single shot on the other side of a map i get pissed. There is no way a Assult rifle with 25 rounds should be able to out snipe a long barreld scoped gun. Its stupid.

Famas THAT!!!!

Wow shotty, that was just as useless of a post as my 1337 post count thread. <3

Someone told me that after you hit 100 fps, there's no recoil on the famas, I donno if they were truthing or not, but thats what I heard.

Famas is only as good as its user.

Famas is only as good as its user.

lol? The FAMAS is very unbalanced. Since when could FRENCH technology take out American? I'm confused.

 

Rid FA of the FAMAS!

lol,althought good points have been made .it all fairly useless,cuz the famas is here to stay :? i too find it frusterating to have a ssg or some other long /mid range weapon,and to get single shotted by a famas.but it just makes me fire faster,and surprizingly i get get more kills like that than to take aim and to shoot. :| but i think it would be interesting if all religious famas'ers were to use something else for a few days,just to see if indeed it is the gun ot the person.of course we all know that won't happen either :mrgreen:

lol,althought good points have been made .it all fairly useless,cuz the famas is here to stay :?

Yes, this whole thing is fairly useless because the Famas will stay unchanged. I just wrote that post in frustration after a good deal of the server had purchased the famas.

 

And for 3.0, I believe they are reducing AR accuracy so that SRs will be supreme at long range.

I'll pop in for a quick word on this one. I totally agree with sharp. The only time I ever used the famas was to increase my score. You might say, well its in the game, so you must be able to use it, but that really doesn't work. You just can't say that the famas is equal to other ARs such as the ak47 and the g3a3. The stats don't lie.I did some experimenting back in 2.8 with the famas, using MB. I was able to kill 4 guys with one clip, just by aiming for the upper chest/neck region. In game my policy has always been to never take on a FAMAS unless its either being used by a freshmeat, or the guy is reloading. IMHO they should take the famas out and replace it with either a MX29 or a XM8. Maybe not the XM8 cause its too similar to the G36e...BTW I coached a crew both yesterday and today . I had to rescue a double that had flipped yesterday, and today I ran some time trials between my crews. 8)

Since when could FRENCH technology take out American?

Anyday.

Yeah, that's why we see other nations buying our planes and our tanks instead of French designs. ;)Anyhow, yeah, the FAMAS feels a bit overpowered. For some reason the FAMAS in CS isn't so powerful. It's practically useless when compared to the M4 or AK47. Oh well, we can only hope that they're able to get it right.

All I can say is I HATE getting killed from a hundred miles away single shot Famas.

The ROF of the FAMAS in CS is lower, thats why its useless.

That, and it's less accurate.

I, as many of you know, luv it. But I don't sleep with it I use standard sight with it. Did accuracy test in empty map on wall target picture of Saddam in Basrah. At what appeared to be about 40 feet. When I placed the sight arrow on the face in single shot, it hit dead on each time. Burst made a triangle each time hitting forehead and lower cheeks. Auto sprayed on the wall above the head between few inches and 12 inches. Putting arrow on upper chest got this mode to land on face.The very fast rof causes the bullets to angle up. Farther will mean higher, closer will land lower. Whereas other games like bfv's m60 make gun and sight move. forcinf you to keep moving mouse up to try to hold it down.I rarely have any luck at distance with single or burst mode. Prefer to charge/dodging left/right to get close enough for easy kill. or sneak around with stealth knowing most surprise run-ins will get face full of lead before i do :wink: in conclusion i've found it only reliable at close range with occaisional med range kills which i considered lucky shots and/or he was low on health.it would be interesting to be with others with all different guns, in experiment only, to learn and note how much health lost from single shot bullets to see if different gun bullets casue more or less damage, with all having same armor. then try different armor strength on all to see differance.show i just watched compared ak47 with m16. ak had terrible inaccuracy and recoil while the m16 was very accurate with much less recoil. partly from using smaller bullets and charges and partly from lighter gun wieght. so ak strategy like us famas people was to sneak or surprise closeup giving it's faster rate of fire and larger bullets chance to overwhelm opponet.

Yeah, that's why we see other nations buying our planes and our tanks instead of French designs.

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Hayabusa: Ky, if you can't say anything without bashing someone, don't say anything at all. Honestly, have some sense.

On a similar note, did you guys know that the Canadian army made 22 or so refinements to the M16 ( Canada calls it F something) and patented the refinements for a much better weapon. It is also full auto not like US burst mode. The U.S.A. now wants to buy the patent. Hmmmm, figure that one out.

long ago i used the famas, i loved it. each map i was getting 60+ kills easy, often going into 80's. Than i realized what a weak weapon it was. In real life its a peice of JUNK. I think they should remove the famas from firearms, that or nerf it like to tomorow.Replace it with the aug...yeeeah.I also think there should be an option for extended magazines hehe. M16 with a 100 round C beta. hell yes

A yes the FAMAS, I don't really use it only as a last resort. When all the other weapons I like to use don't work then I use the Famas. Or when I need to get a good arty marker I'll use it just to make my way through to get the marker I want. Then I'll use my weapons of chioce. :twisted: I know that it gets very frustating when you get killed by someone who uses the Famas far way I know that feeling and I don't really thinks it's fair that a weapon like that could be so accurate in long range like a sniper. :roll: I know that some of the people who use that Famas are skilled with it just like Shultz and I are skilled with the M79 But others who use it well . . . . . I'm not really sure what to say about that. I think the famas should cost a bit more than it does so the user can't have full heavy armor and famas. But full medium armor and famas then it would be an equal match to other weapons. Of course those who use the famas wouldn't like that idea.It's funny that famas in CS is not that great of a weapon but in FA it is. Is it because it spelled FA-MAS get it FAmas. lol :wink: Well it doesn't matter what weapon you use in the game as long as you know how to use it to your advantage. I mean, I see people use a pistol and you get killed. :wink:

First of all the m82 is the most unbalanced gun. giving it close to 100% accuracy while crouching is just plain stupid. For christ's sake the gun weighs 30 pounds... (my comments on the famas are said as though the m82 isn't in the game)In 2.8 the m82 was perfect. When you were advancing you were at a big disadvantage but when you stopped and got the bipod down you were almost unstoppable.In 2.9 the m82 can even own a famas in cqb, It happens all the time even to good players. The 2 shot kill combined with the "stop and shoot move" makes it to good.Also, no one good even uses the bipod anymore because its easier to just move around and crouch shoot. The m82 is not ment for this kind of play.On Caen I practiced with the m82 and ended up with a score of like 50 and 10 and I didn't use the scope once.-----------------------------------------------------------Now the famas:the famas is the easiest gun to go 1:1 with. In a 1 on 1 game the best gun is the famas by FAR! Being able to shoot 25 rifle rounds extremely fast allows the user to burst the famas and then reposition.Like SS6 said the key to the famas is midrange combat on full auto. Fire 10-15 shots, reposition, then finish off the target.In FA movement is key and the famas's high ROF makes it very easy to shoot and move.However, in games with 10 or more people I think the famas is pretty even. The M4, for instance, is an awesome gun. The m4 with nomen and marks1 or marks 2 is just as good as the famas.The m4 with nomen is easy to use, you just have to remember you don't want to go head on with a famas.

You might say, well its in the game, so you must be able to use it, but that really doesn't work. You just can't say that the famas is equal to other ARs such as the ak47 and the g3a3. The stats don't lie.

wait; wait. You're trying to tell me, because more people use the gun, it's obviously the best gun out there? What in the hell were you thinking? I disagree that the famas is the best gun in firearms. I don't think that theres any clear "best" gun in firearms.