Armory server are temporarily down for maintenance. They should be back up shortly

Ok

safe asumption that vent isn't hosted on that box right?

naw ventrilo has a stranglehold on hosting service providers, much like BF2 does for the ranked servers. individuals (and groups) can't host their own ventrilo server (legally)

naw ventrilo has a stranglehold on hosting service providers, much like BF2 does for the ranked servers. individuals (and groups) can't host their own ventrilo server (legally)

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

 

Server 2.2 - Public version:

 

The public version of the Ventrilo 2.2 server can be used without a license fee, so long as you abide by the terms of the LICENSE. Each of the public servers contains a file named LICENSE and by downloading and running the server you are agreeing to the terms of this license.

 

4.1.2 The Software is for personal use only. You may not

 

use the Software for any commercial purpose or charge any

 

fee, directly or indirectly, for copying, use, or access to

 

the Software. You agree not to include use or access to the

 

Software in any rental, membership, license agreement or

 

other goods or services for which a fee is charged directly

 

or indirectly. You agree not to rent, lease, license, sell

 

or charge any fee directly or indirectly for use or access

 

to any Server or other device on which the Software is

 

installed.

Please, read these:

 

http://www.ventrilo.com/purchase.php

 

http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

 

http://www.r5a.org:76/VENTLICENSE.txt

 

About BF2, I have no idea how the ranking system works becasue I don't play it, but I know you can run a dedicated server for free without any trouble, but I don't think your dedicated server would submit / update the global stats or whatever. Besides, the guy above you was asking if the vent server was going to be down (in case it was hosted on the same server as the gameservers).

 

**EDIT : you know personal attacks are not tolerated here CC - Roach**

 

- regarding the public server --"The Software may be used at any point in time only by eight (8) Client Computers."

 

I guess should have been more specific so you wouldn't need to waste your time researching ventrilo's license agreement. I'm happy that you had time to look all of that up and upload the license agreement to your web site.

Um? No need for name calling.

 

naw ventrilo has a stranglehold on hosting service providers, much like BF2 does for the ranked servers. individuals (and groups) can't host their own ventrilo server (legally)

That is what I was flipping about; yes we can. How does a billion other vent servers do it? How does TAC do it? I wonder, it's pefectly legal. The whole point of the limit is to encourage people to buy their software! It used to be a free program but just recently they changed that and made the licesning more confusing. Just becasue they limit the free ver to cap to 8 people, dosn't mean it's illegal, no idea where you came up with that...

It didn't take me alot of time, about five minutes. That's not my website, it's my dev machine (my main computer) and I shared a whole drive on the web so it was bascially a thing of moving a text file to a diffrent drive and linking it for you.

I can read too dipwad - regarding the public server --"The Software may be used at any point in time only by eight (8) Client Computers."

 

I guess should have been more specific so you wouldn't need to waste your time researching ventrilo's license agreement. I'm happy that you had time to look all of that up and upload the license agreement to your web site.

i dont remember r5a saying you couldnt read. the only way i can see you thinking that he told you that you cant read, is by not being able to read.

 

are the servers back up?

is thebes causing lag ?

r5a,

 

The TAC vent is 50 person vent and no unless you are a host you cant host you own. You can do so for private use only. You will be limited to either 5 or 8 slots (cant remember).

 

Carl is correct. The old version allowed you to host as many as you wanted but now is again their TOS to do so. We also checked on paying for our server, but only server hosting companies are allowed to host.

 

The private 8 person slot wouldnt do us any good.

 

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

So in that respect to your question he actually knows a good bit. As he was in the Senior Council when Ventrilo was first setup and if memory serves correct was the one that told us about it when it was pretty new. He also runs the SRT ventrilo.

If you ever actually setup a ventrilo server you will find this 8 person limit in this free version. Carl speaks from working with the program/server not just reading through the FAQ.

 

If you dont believe me about the recall on the rights to use the 2.1.x version just post in their forums and ask. Be ready though.... That is why we had to switch here at TAC to the paid version when it come out.

I knew I would find it...I dont miss much in the way of legal stuff.

 

http://www.ventrilo.com/purchase.php

 

Q) Can I host previous versions of the software until I obtain a license?

 

No. Hosting previous versions is not allowed. See the statement at the bottom of this page.

 

Q) Am I allowed to host the software for download from my web site?

 

No. Your download page must link to the official Ventrilo.com download page. Redistribution of any Ventrilo files is copyright fraud and strictly prohibited

NOW for the kicker from the same page (any questions? )

 

Previous versions:

 

Any company who rents, sells, leases, includes with some other service, resells, provides access to (free or otherwise), sponsors, directly or indirectly forces any kind of payment, compensation or advertising for access to an older version of the server is committing license fraud.

 

In short, if they are a hosting company or some kind of variation there of and is providing access to an old version then they are committing license fraud.

 

Since all official licensee's are required to run the latest 2.2 Pro servers then any hosting company providing you access to an older version of the server is subject to legal action and punitive damages. This will include, but not limited to, contacting all state / federal law enforcement agencies and requesting their assistance in a fraud investigation. If they are outside of the United States then their respective countries / jurisdiction law enforcement agencies will be contacted.

 

We would appreciate any information regarding hosting companies or individuals who are providing older servers. Please contact us at fraud@ventrilo.com. All correspondence will be kept confidential. Please include the URL of the offenders web site or the IRC network and channel. If you have the IP address and port number of an illegal server please include any information possible.

Carl/Gator/Mac/Jasun/StateCop and all us researched this when they come out with the new version. It sucked but we had to eat the cost of to provide this service for the very reason posted above...and yes it is illegal to use the older version. A problem we dont want or need. I would take note of this if I were you before you install an older version on your box.

 

and its not like r5a has only read through the faq, he runs his own vent server, ive used it many times, and on the odd ocasion, ive seen more then 8 people.

r5a,

 

The TAC vent is 50 person vent and no unless you are a host you cant host you own. You can do so for private use only. You will be limited to either 5 or 8 slots (cant remember).

 

Carl is correct. The old version allowed you to host as many as you wanted but now is again their TOS to do so. We also checked on paying for our server, but only server hosting companies are allowed to host.

 

The private 8 person slot wouldnt do us any good.

 

So in that respect to your question he actually knows a good bit. As he was in the Senior Council when Ventrilo was first setup and if memory serves correct was the one that told us about it when it was pretty new. He also runs the SRT ventrilo.

 

If you ever actually setup a ventrilo server you will find this 8 person limit in this free version. Carl speaks from working with the program/server not just reading through the FAQ.

1: Yes you can! If it's for private use, your still hosting your own server, for private use! It's not illegal.

2: That was me who said that, not Carl.

 

3: I have setup my own vent server.

 

After reading up on the pro version, the way their doing it is quite quite ***, it used to be you'd pay flat rate for a full ver with no slot capping. They changed it now, again. Acutally, I shoudn't say them, it's only a one man task force on the dev team.

 

To hell with this program, Teamspeak here I come!

and its not like r5a has only read through the faq, he runs his own vent server, ive used it many times, and on the odd ocasion, ive seen more then 8 people.

Please note above that if he is doing so it is illegal.

 

Ok I guess they just posted that on their web page for no reason. Tell you what post your IP on their forums. I agree it sucks! The problem is it is not worth the hassle. That is why we just rented a server.

I know about using old versions to bypass the cap, which is why I have seen some websites (inc. some servers I go to) host the server/client download. Im using the latest 2.2.0 and I'm not doing anything wrong, in fact, If i did post my address on there, they'd probbaly ban me for spam / advertising.

 

Why this has to do with hosting your own server I don't know but thanks for drilling what I knew already into my head.

no prob

Why don't you guys switch to teamspeak?

The qaulity sucks when matched again vent.

That's true. It's still really good imho.

Um? No need for name calling.

:o :o

Thank you Gator, for the great work you do here, day for day..

could this be why, around sometime last night, why some people couldnt get registered? because some people last night on the FA server were trying to register to view the stats. one of their names was Kinetik(that was his forum name), and he couldnt seem to get logged in or even register. so if this is the problem ill tell them next time i see them.