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Patch 1.2, utter failure?

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So, I have been playing 1.2 for about 10 hours play time now. I have noticed a few things that really irritate me:

1. Heli's seem like they are made of paper-mache. I literally took one out by accident with an FAV about 15 minutes ago.

2. SAMs/IGLAs are godlike now. Their range is disgusting and I have watched them literally pull a 180 degree turn to strike their target. Not to mention they seem to totally ignore flares and reload way faster.

3. MG's, namely the MG36 and PKM are rail guns now. Not to mention the guys can still drop prone and hammer you with a perfectly accurate and over-powered MG, which is more like an automatic rail gun.

4. It may be just me, but I noticed a few things about small arms:

a. It feels like they aren't doing as much damage.

b. Some of them (Namely the L85A1), have had their recoil increased and accuracy dramatically decreased, making full auto fire with a 5.56NATO weapon feel like I'm shooting a .50cal assault rifle.

5. Grenade Launchers (AKA **** Toobs) are still the same, the round just bounces 2 inches and then blows up, ultimately putting the shooter further from harm, and the target even more screwed.

6. Hand Grenades can be thrown WAY to far. I have seen a grenade thrown from the MG at the USMC base at karkand down to the enclosed area next to the ladder near the flag. It is a joke.

7. C4. Don't get me wrong, I am not a C4 tosser, but what they did to C4 totally nerfed the spec ops class. I now have to get withing 3 feet of a tank or APC to plant C4. Ironically, I have gotten more kills after 1.2 with C4, so I really shouldn't be complaining.

8. Tanks have had their armor buffed. Though I don't really see it as a problem, but IMO taking 3 TOWs to take out an M1A2 is pretty lame.

9. All helicopter weapons have been severely nerfed. The UH-60 guns are half as effective (which weren't over-powered to begin with). The Cobra rockets are not only lessened in number, but are slightly weaker.

10. Apparently APC's have had their armor stripped.

11. Movement is much more cumbersome. I can't dodge around fire as much (and no, I wasn't a dolphin diver) as I could by sprinting.

 

Now that the negatives are through with, let's have a look at the plusses:

1. Fighters/Bombers are no longer completely unstoppable.

2. No more bunny hoppers (though I think I have found a way around this, more updates later).

3. No more dolphin divers.

4. Sniper rifles can actually kill someone in 1 shot now.

5. New weapons to mess around with! I have only gotten my hands on an L96, but I am pleased with it, and I can't wait to try out the new AR's (FAMAS, L85 assault version).

 

Anyways, that is my review, vote and leave feedback! :D

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havnet played much yet cuz of school, but from wut ive read from u im guessing that the patch makers didnt really do their hw. but hey its a game and well its just anotherpatch to get used to :D

PKM is like a lazer now (rejoice KTown)

SVD shoots fast like a pistol now ( even if it takes 3 shots to kill someone you can get them off in about .5 seconds LOL)

No0btoob is still just as effective

I hate that I can't jump and throw a mine on a tank.

Now you have to try to get on it and drop it.

C4 might as well be taken out of the game now except for setting traps and waiting or sneaking up on a tank.

Medic, if you use defibs just switch quickly to another weapon then back to defib and it is ready instantly. You can revive 5 guys in 2 seconds. LOL.

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Medic, if you use defibs just switch quickly to another weapon then back to defib and it is ready instantly. You can revive 5 guys in 2 seconds. LOL.

Didn't notice that =D. Nice find!

the patch rocks,the game has become fun to me now.

the new sniper gun kicks butt,and the ground pounding will become the new craze.

Everyone complained that it wasn't realistic enough - and now that it sounds more realistic ---- - everyone is still complaining.

 

I haven't played the new patch yet, but it sounds to me like EA finally has honed the game into being a bit more of a true Battlefield Simulator and not some lame-o Tiger Arcade Handheld Shoot-Em-Up game.

 

I can't wait to play it.

It could be a whole lot better if EA/DICE didn't take short cuts on somethings. Like jumping and shooting, or lower the blast radius on C4, or having missile to 180 degrees turns. You know things like that.

 

Yet again I haven't played the game because after I installed the patch it took away all my sound. Now it won't even register my X-FI sound card. Saying I don't have it. Yea ok.

Some more little things.

Claymores are the new craze especially if Friendly Fire is off on the server for mines and clays. You are pretty much guaranteed a kill with each one because nothing can set them off but the enemy.

I got 14 kills in one game with clays and never did that before or even close.

after all the hype and anticipation, my feelings are...meh. sniper rifle is neat i suppose and ill have to get used to my grenades being thrown 500 yards instead of 10 feet.

QUOTE:So, I have been playing 1.2 for about 10 hours play time now. I have noticed a few things that really irritate me:

1. Heli's seem like they are made of paper-mache. I literally took one out by accident with an FAV about 15 minutes ago.

2. SAMs/IGLAs are godlike now. Their range is disgusting and I have watched them literally pull a 180 degree turn to strike their target. Not to mention they seem to totally ignore flares and reload way faster.

 

 

yeah...this sucks huge, it should have been one or the other...never been shot down in a helo by a few bullets and one shoulder mounted missile,but it seemed to happen everytime i hopped in..as far as the aa goes i think they went a wee bit too far in the accuracy improvments...although one note i should point out is the fact i was killed 5 times lastnight by friendly aa,the only difference was i couldnt even dodge it with my flares,obviously that problem still exists...oh well i guess ill just have to enjoy my full automatic sniper rifles now (pkm,mg36 etc). :D

after all the hype and anticipation, my feelings are...meh. sniper rifle is neat i suppose and ill have to get used to my grenades being thrown 500 yards instead of 10 feet.

ya, I was prone at the Hotel on Karkand and a guy threw one from the Square. I thought I was safe until it bounced up and landed under my chin. :D
never been shot down in a helo by a few bullets and one shoulder mounted missile,but it seemed to happen everytime i hopped in..as far as the aa goes i think they went a wee bit too far in the accuracy improvments

Again, everyone was complaining about realism - and they gave it to us. If you're in a Blackhawk, in a hover (or even flying forward in plain sight) and someone is laying into you with a 50 cal gun, you're not going to just keeping on flying. Stuff is going to break. Since they haven't implemented true flight control problems in Battlefield - they only option is to explode.

 

Same for the AA... if you fly right over an SAM site in BROAD DAYLIGHT and have no way to jam the SAM's ---- you're gonna get some serious frickin' heat.

 

I'm just tired of people constantly whining after every patch. Things such as the jump/shoot complaint now... being a coder, code isn't always that easy to fix. Sometimes you'll code yourself into a corner and to make a seemingly minor change could take an eternity. Hell, you may as well just start over. So instead, you try to comprise with a fix that will appease.

 

I'm not saying that EA is 100% right. But, it sounds like they gave us realism just like we wanted and everyone is going "Weeee weeee weee all the way home."

 

:p :p :D

I'm not saying that EA is 100% right. But, it sounds like they gave us realism just like we wanted and everyone is going "Weeee weeee weee all the way home."

 

:p :p :D

Now that right there is funny!

Again, everyone was complaining about realism - and they gave it to us. If you're in a Blackhawk, in a hover (or even flying forward in plain sight) and someone is laying into you with a 50 cal gun, you're not going to just keeping on flying. Stuff is going to break. Since they haven't implemented true flight control problems in Battlefield - they only option is to explode.

 

Same for the AA... if you fly right over an SAM site in BROAD DAYLIGHT and have no way to jam the SAM's ---- you're gonna get some serious frickin' heat.

 

I'm just tired of people constantly whining after every patch. Things such as the jump/shoot complaint now... being a coder, code isn't always that easy to fix. Sometimes you'll code yourself into a corner and to make a seemingly minor change could take an eternity. Hell, you may as well just start over. So instead, you try to comprise with a fix that will appease.

 

I'm not saying that EA is 100% right. But, it sounds like they gave us realism just like we wanted and everyone is going "Weeee weeee weee all the way home."

 

:p :p :D

Took the words right out of my mouth....

 

TFD

Well. I played BF2 the other afternoon. I patched today and the patch says. You need version 1.12 to apply this patch. Hmmmm. I just played ver 1.12 the other day.

 

I repatched from ground up and same thing.

 

I downloaded a different one from a different site. No go.

 

Registry checks out as version 1.12. Hmmmmm.

 

Guess I will have to uninstall, wipe the registry, reinstall and try the whole thing over again. Now I know what Arnie felt like a little bit. I had a perfectly functioning game 3 days ago. Try to Patch it and it wont patch.

Well. I played BF2 the other afternoon. I patched today and the patch says. You need version 1.12 to apply this patch. Hmmmm. I just played ver 1.12 the other day.

 

I repatched from ground up and same thing.

 

I downloaded a different one from a different site. No go.

 

Registry checks out as version 1.12. Hmmmmm.

 

Guess I will have to uninstall, wipe the registry, reinstall and try the whole thing over again. Now I know what Arnie felt like a little bit. I had a perfectly functioning game 3 days ago. Try to Patch it and it wont patch.

I just did this... Uninstall BF2 and Special Forces (if you have it). Delte the folders except for your "Profiles" folder located in "My Documents". Reinstall BF2/SF, and then doadload the "Full" client patch from your favorite File site, and then install it. Place your Profiles folder back in and you are good to go.
I counted what I've spent just to play this game I was astounded. But EA could careless they have our money and only want more. The more and more I have to put up with from them makes STEAM products look awesome. But enough for the rant I stick around here because I like the company and I'll stick around as long as everyone else. We'll walk through the Valley and all that crap :confused: :) :) end Philosophy 101 :)
i like the patch except for the fact that i cant C4 toss a tank or chuck AT Mines. and i really am going to have a hard time flying now that Stingers/IGLA are auto seekers, but i think bombing is easier now for some reason. the new sniper rifle is top-notch and the P90 isnt bad either, despite what some of you say.

i kinda feel like now with this new patch that all the (me)people who hated bf2 with the BH/DD c4 throwing/ grandes ect. plus the heli whoring,and bomb runs over spawn points. finally get some satifaction.ground pounding can now finally be fun.and air *****s all have to find a better way to rack up all those points now-ha ha ha .Granted some problems were not fixed(name bugs ect.)And that is a shame,but for all you who couldn't stand the way things were, this patch is a step in the right direction.I for 1 love it.And (no offense)i love hearing all the people who used to make my game less enjoyable crying about all the new fixes ,that now they hate.Cuz IMO these fixes were for all you who hate it ther most.

well i'm going to play more of the game i just now have begun to love again.

-k_t

This patch, to me, has many pros that outweigh cons.

 

Hearing those guys come in and complain that the patch is horrible because they cannot prone spame, bunny hop, and countless other lamer exploits is enough for me.

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However, ladies and gentlemen, I have found a way to get around the downtime from prone-->standing.

 

To do this, simply prone, press crouch, then let go of crouch quickly. If you do this, you're standing efficiently in roughly the same time it takes for the downtime AND you're able to shoot.

 

I agree that, perhaps, the SAM missles are a little godlike but this is how they are in real life....sort of.

 

You're going to be taking heat at almost all times and a majority of those missles flying at you WILL hit. If they don't, sigh, and wait for the next one to lock onto you.

 

C4 DID get a little too nerfed, but I like that you can no longer throw it the distance of an effective pistol shot.

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To me, the game looks nicer. Some minor things (again, at least to me) have been fixed. I scope with a gun like the SCAR-L and I no longer get nasty shadow effects on the inside of the scope but rather get a fancy little lighting effect. It's pretty nice to look at.

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Is it just me or does arty strike faster now?

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PKM is too buffed...the gun should have been left as-is. I have been hit COUNTLESS times by the PKM from a range that is both impossble and poopy. I don't even hear the shot occasionally!

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One of the more humorous thigns to pop up from this patch is the hilarious stamina glitch.

 

If you sprint until your stamina is in the red, then jump, you hear a faint "huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh" sound. (Thanks to Underspy pointing this out.)

 

 

Just my two cents, I'm at school or else I would post more.

 

First Sergeant Biscuit~

Sorry to double post, here, but I agree that ground-pounding is going to become EXTREMELY favored now.

 

Eryx/SRAW seem to be more powerful which is extremely attractive. Those people that like to stay in a tank or APC forever can no longer do this successfully for very long.

 

Blackhawk got NERFED! No more of that nasty BH use in Mashtuur City anymore. You can hop in AA and OWN it with 2 hits + small arms fire.

 

Anyway, I think the game now has a much more tactical feel because ground-pounding is the new choice method of movement. Which is awesome, by the way. Can't get enough of it!

 

I R teh 1337 M16 sniper! (Just ask Steve0)

 

Biscuit....again~

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