April 17, 200718 yr why is it, that in a country that bans alcohol and nudity on TV, your still allowed to buy a gun I weep for America
April 17, 200718 yr QUOTE=Wellsy;202318]why is it, that in a country that bans alcohol and nudity on TV, your still allowed to buy a gun I weep for America
April 17, 200718 yr the point being, this isnt a one off. How many of these happen a year? 2 or 3 times atleast, there seemed to be a spate of these last year. And to be honest, if you just killed 22 unarmed people in cold blood, i somewhat doubt their ability to feel any kind of guilt for what they have just done. Taking your life in the manner that this maniac did is possibly the most cowardly act possible.
April 17, 200718 yr Pass up MIT are you nuts, thats the shizzle, or maybe you could join the military, and help me protect the freedoms you enjoy, tough choice, hhmmm.... With all due respect, I DOUBT Ky would join the military (of any country) to help protect the freedoms you enjoy. Take the blame off the gun and put it on the people that do the things that give them a bad name. Its a damn shame that the person that did this took their own life. He should have to face the parents and the hurt he has caused! Look into the griefing eyes of the moms and explain why he choose this way to express himself. BTW: why did you ban alcohol and nudity on TV? Camill: zawsze mozesz uzyc lasera przeciwko durniom, przeciez po to nad nimi pracujesz
April 17, 200718 yr i bet if the kid was caught by police before he shot himself his lawyer would of blamed it on video games or insanity. he probably couldnt handle the pressure and mental abuse from his college mates and done this act. It's sad the campus police and the college community didnt take action fast enough, the 2nd shooting could of been avoided.
April 17, 200718 yr BTW: why did you ban alcohol and nudity on TV? -We did no such thing...it is everywhere. Well prime-time stuff is fairly PG...but that is because the country is run by old people that fear stuff like the human body... With all due respect, I DOUBT Ky would join the military (of any country) to help protect the freedoms you enjoy. -They might be able to kick out a**es...BUT THEY CAN'T KICK OUR FREEDOM!! Camill: zawsze mozesz uzyc lasera przeciwko durniom' date=' przeciez po to nad nimi [b']pracujesz[/b] -something about Moses, a laser, and a parachute??...
April 17, 200718 yr -something about Moses, a laser, and a parachute??... ummm, no. retry, abort, fail?
April 17, 200718 yr BTW: why did you ban alcohol and nudity on TV? ???? I did no such thing, nor did I make that statement.
April 17, 200718 yr well this is why guns should be banned throughout the usa. people who obtain permits and have registered weapons should only carry them. "Law enforcement officials told Williams that Cho was carrying a backpack that contained receipts for the purchase of a Glock 9mm pistol in March. As a permanent legal resident, Cho was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of any felony criminal charges." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18148802/?GT1=9246 why do young people need to carry weapons for?
April 17, 200718 yr Camill: zawsze mozesz uzyc lasera przeciwko durniom, przeciez po to nad nimi pracujesz Eeee... właściwie to pracuję (hehe) nad nimi po to, by móc mieć kurde kiedyś optyczne łącze bezprzewodowe (i nie mówię o teraźniejszym IR) a nie to pieprzone radiowe, co ciągle przerywa.... But You are right. I would definately not join any military for no reason. Anyway, it's not that i am horribly afraid of death, it would just be stupid to get blasted by a psycho, who's girlfriend dumped him (or similar no-reason). Don't You think there is something wrong there? And, of course, i am for banning of the guns (not that i have the vote) - swords are better... PS. Obviously 'Fail'.
April 17, 200718 yr why is it, that in a country that bans alcohol and nudity on TV, your still allowed to buy a gun I weep for America America's got issues. It's true. But I believe it's mostly in the area of the displacement of blame and lack of attention people pay to others. I mean look at this kid. Look at Columbine. Less than a year before the guys at Columbine went on their spree they made a video for school of the exact same thing happening. Doesn't anyone think that should have sent some warning bells off? Video games are being blamed because people need a scapegoat so it isn't their problem. If there's nothing they could do they don't have to feel guilty. The problem is that there are a few studies out there to support this. I'm doing a paper on the subject. These studies are purely based on experimental evidence, which means they're easily discredited but they found that violent content over a long period of time can cause violent tendencies. They don't mention that this is without a counter balance of morality such as PARENTING. Now this kid is in college. Shouldn't he have a moral structure of some kind in place? A way to cope with loss and grief? Parents and friends around him he could call to dissuade him from doing anything drastic? I've had the woman I love leave me and it was tough and it sucks, but I didn't go on a killing spree or kill myself. America's sick in a lot of ways but it's not just because the laws we have in place. It's because no one cares about the people around them and parents are raising kids without instilling morals. Parents today are weak. Most just let their kids do what they want. It's also dismissive to think just because someone can buy a handgun and go on a killing spree it's the law's fault. While I agree this sort of thing would be cut down by only allowing only people who need them to have them (Jamaca's got the right idea about gun control as far as I'm concerned), he should have never used it in the first place. This is America. You walk down the right back alley in America and you can get anything you want. Laws or no. It's tragic, but putting the blame on violent media is just going to satisfy those looking not to take any blame for their lives. So screw them. They need to grow a pair and step up and take responsibility. This kid as well. He did this because a girl broke up with him. NO ONE CARES about your pain kid because they're wrapped up in their own lives. And you know what? Becoming a murderer isn't going to make anyone care any more than they did when it happened. People need to grow up. /rant.
April 17, 200718 yr well this is why guns should be banned throughout the usa. people who obtain permits and have registered weapons should only carry them. "Law enforcement officials told Williams that Cho was carrying a backpack that contained receipts for the purchase of a Glock 9mm pistol in March. As a permanent legal resident, Cho was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of any felony criminal charges." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18148802/?GT1=9246 why do young people need to carry weapons for? Because they can!! The second ammendment says it is within their right to do so. Do you ban cars because some drunk kills a family of four on their way to grandmas house? Of course not. Better security on campus is the answer, not banning guns. There are far more people that own and use guns responsbly then do this stupid #$%^. I blame parents for raising their kids in such a manner now a days, that does not teach simple values. I see it everyday, people have lost respect for each other. We are to caught up in our daily lifes, that we forget how easy it is to be nice. How many of us drive like idiots instead of just letting that car merge in front of us? Be nice. We as a society have failed. America does not need to ban guns!! The gun did not cause this. Someone that made a decision of wrong over right did this. We need to get back to teaching old fashioned morles and right from wrong. Teach that you will not always win and its ok to lose. Teach life is not fair! Sometimes your the bug and sometimes your the windshield! Teach violence is not the right way to handle things. Teach them how to use guns correctly. Teach them how valuable life is.
April 17, 200718 yr Because they can!! The second ammendment says it is within their right to do so. Do you ban cars because some drunk kills a family of four on their way to grandmas house? Of course not. -Do not ban cars...crack down on alcohol... America does not need to ban guns!! The gun did not cause this. -Oh God...I hate this one... ... ... -The gun helped...the ease of acquisition did not... -As for teaching values and such...it is similar to teaching math, some people do not get it and never care to...then they get a gun...and kill people -With harsh gun laws this punk would have gotten pissed off and maybe stabbed someone, far less lethal than a 9 mili...wouldn't ya say? -As an "I see your point" note: I love guns and I love shooting things, so a ban would suck for me too...but background checks, character witnesses, and a psych evaluation:rolleyes: would not hurt anyone LOL -guns do not kill people, people kill people...with guns
April 17, 200718 yr Do you ban cars because some drunk kills a family of four on their way to grandmas house? Of course not. I found this funny. your comparing cars with guns. Yes we need guns for means of transportation, showing off our 9's... "yo fellaz what you think? I just put a set of dubz on my new gun, now i'm rollin in style. going to the grocery store...etc etc... Yes you are absolutly right Killian lets keep guns so people have an incentive to shoot people. by the way to drive a car you need a license... Omg and to get a license you need a permit, then you have to register the car. So since you are comparing cars to guns then where's the permit and the registration for the gun. DoH! bad comparison.
April 17, 200718 yr by the way to drive a car you need a license... Omg and to get a license you need a permit, then you have to register the car. So since you are comparing cars to guns then where's the permit and the registration for the gun. DoH! bad comparison. BUS'N OUT BOTH DA GUNZ! LOL http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/8/8_1_200.gifROOOAR! You got permits for them Impact??
April 17, 200718 yr Author I don't know about your state but where I live you have to get a permit for guns, and I do believe that they register you for the gun as well Impact. There is the permit and the registration But I see what you are saying, they aren't necessary in most places (though where I live, maybe they are. Some parts of Selma are not safe at all.) I don't think that guns should be banned. Maybe make them harder to get, I don't know. I let other people deal with that. As to video games being a problem: Maybe. Personally I find video games to be a HUGE vent for frustration and anger. I have been playing violent games for years and I don't want to kill anybody in real life. And just like Psyclone said. Video games are harmful to the mind if that is ALL someone does. I went to a youth leadership thing and government guy came to talk about violence in video games. He said that if you play games and do NOTHING whatsoever socially then part of your brain will stop working as well. But, say, if you play games and hang out with your friends or talk to your parents or even talk to people on Ventrilo or Teamspeak, then they are not harmful. Reading, doing schoolwork, playing sports, things like that also help balance things out. It was proven that the kids at Columbine did more or less nothing but play video games, and plus they were bullied I do believe (games were probably a reason for being bullied as well.) Guns are not the problem. Video Games are not the problem. People who do not balance their mind are the problem.
April 17, 200718 yr On one talk show a guy said. "well if he didnt like the way things were run here y didnt he just move back hes been here 14 years" and another one "people are looking for a reason....there is no reason sometimes people just crack" puts things in a non liberal persepctive.
April 17, 200718 yr IThere is the permit and the registration to get a permit for a weapon usually takes weeks if not months where they do a background check and so forth. He was a young student with a green card they would of never givin him a weapons permit. when i mentioned guns should be banned, I ment they shouldn't be allowed to be bought just like that. People should have the proper credentials to make that kind of purchase. weapons shouldn't be sold to students in this case.
April 17, 200718 yr Author yeah apparently in Virginia all you have to do to buy a handgun is to be 21, provide 3 forms of ID and proof of a permanent U.S. adress, and have a background check.
April 18, 200718 yr Didn't he get the guns from a pawn shop? Pawn shops aren't going to do a background check.... ----------------------------------------------- So whos fault is it? The bully or the kid that can't take the constant put downs from others? Anyone or any animal bullied enough will break.
April 18, 200718 yr -Just Playing...Hey, can I help you defend our freedoms? (21B FTW...well that or CavScout(19D))_FREEFALL Now theres a trooper, and you get a bonus also, W:D:Dt :)
April 18, 200718 yr Here's something that I found interesting. Guns may not ultimately be the problem...i get the whole guns don't kill people, people kill people, and second amendment arguments; but our society isn't doing much to solve the underlying issue compared to other countries. if we're going to give people the right to have guns, then we better make sure that those people use them responsibly. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_eu/virginia_tech_world_view
April 18, 200718 yr Yeah is sad how many attacks you got in schools!When the autorities is going to do something to prevent that?Curios!
April 18, 200718 yr Yeah is sad how many attacks you got in schools!When the autorities is going to do something to prevent that?Curios! -It is a poor state of affairs, but it is hard to control as well. If a kid can not get a gun his uncle might have one around. The government will be unwilling to fund metal detectors and some sort of ISF in EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL...we got that war ya know . This is an issue that will not be solved, ever. Theories are nice on paper, but nothing is foolproof, lets face it we have some skilled fools in this great U.S. of ours. It is a sad truth, and hard for most to accept. Crisis management is how we operate here, preventive measures cost money and may never be used (capitalism at its worst). -Example, SitRep, whateva' : there are 19,000+ high schools alone in the US (National Center for Education Statistics). I would suspect it would cost millions to cover them all adequately (assumed at a few thousand per school, sans upkeep costs). There is an average of five school shootings, with multiple victims, per year (2004 NY Times, close as I could find). In the spenders eyes (yes...the ones that spend our tax money) this would be a huge waste of recourses that could be "better spent elsewhere". 5 of 19000 is what the people we vote for call "acceptable losses". Again, sad truth. -I believe a fair amount of people do not agree with what the government does (regardless of political affiliations). Our government is supposed to be ...for the people, by the people... (Gettysburg Address -Abraham Lincoln)...I think something might be wrong... -end rant- -If I am mistaken on any points, please correct me. (I am only half perfect you know ) -------------------------------- Just an addition for those who may not know the second amendment. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. -side note: is it still "necessary"?...(shall not be infringed...there is the kicker)
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