Posted January 17, 200817 yr New siren for ya Strobes and Wolfey Police siren makes motorists shake Jan. 16 - A growing number of police departments across the country are using a new type of siren that cannot only be heard, it can be felt. http://usatoday.feedroom.com/index.jsp?fr_story=FRdamp240476
January 17, 200817 yr That's cool. When I was 25, I had 12" subwoofers in my car that would do the same thing
January 17, 200817 yr I think thats a great idea, most of the people they are wanting to pull over cant hear them because of there stereo system, or on the CELLPHONE, Go rumbler, now all they have to issue is the car disabler, that with one eletro pulse disables the car with one shot, for those that think they can flee, imagine how many innocent people could benefit from that............. But that would be too easy ^^
January 17, 200817 yr I think thats a great idea, most of the people they are wanting to pull over cant hear them because of there stereo system, or on the CELLPHONE, Go rumbler, now all they have to issue is the car disabler, that with one eletro pulse disables the car with one shot, for those that think they can flee, imagine how many innocent people could benefit from that............. But that would be too easy ^^ Also potentially dangerous...
January 17, 200817 yr Also potentially dangerous... ?whats more danerous some ass behind the wheel, trying to flee, and having every cop and there mother chasing him, or one zap and the retardness stops.?
January 17, 200817 yr It is unfortunate, Joe, that vehicles do not stop instantly. Beyond that, what all becomes inoperational? There's a distinct risk of having the brakes fail with such a device and I think a criminal who can't control his vehicle is much more dangerous than a criminal that can.
January 17, 200817 yr It is unfortunate, Joe, that vehicles do not stop instantly. Beyond that, what all becomes inoperational? There's a distinct risk of having the brakes fail with such a device and I think a criminal who can't control his vehicle is much more dangerous than a criminal that can. -AT missiles...people would have a newfound respect for the law...hehe
January 17, 200817 yr It is unfortunate, Joe, that vehicles do not stop instantly. Beyond that, what all becomes inoperational? There's a distinct risk of having the brakes fail with such a device and I think a criminal who can't control his vehicle is much more dangerous than a criminal that can. i can see your point however if you could still use brakes then it'd be a better solution than having the "criminal" running around a city possibly putting many more in danger.Or people could just grow the hell up get a job and stop stealing or w/e for a living
January 17, 200817 yr We definitely need them on our cars! I'm so sick and tired of the idiots that have their steroes up full blast, not to mention the ones that just have to talk on their cell phones. God forbid if we miss a call!
January 17, 200817 yr Hehe. It's illegal now here in Kansas to talk on your cell phone while driving.
January 17, 200817 yr Hehe. It's illegal now here in Kansas to talk on your cell phone while driving. Yeah, it is here too, but that doesn't stop them from using it. They just wave at me while I'm in my police car. I smile wave back at them, then I stop them and write them a ticket. They dont smile so much after that. I wonder why.
January 17, 200817 yr Hehe. It's illegal now here in Kansas to talk on your cell phone while driving. When I was in Japan over 10 yrs ago it was illegal to not be using a hands free device while driving. New siren for ya Strobes and Wolfey http://usatoday.feedroom.com/index.jsp?fr_story=FRdamp240476 Cool find gator will have to show the chief that one.
January 17, 200817 yr It is unfortunate, Joe, that vehicles do not stop instantly. Beyond that, what all becomes inoperational? There's a distinct risk of having the brakes fail with such a device and I think a criminal who can't control his vehicle is much more dangerous than a criminal that can. Well.. i dont think you actually have any idea how.. A. the electric vehicle disabler works B. The brakes work on a car.. A.. It delivers a high energy pulse to the electircal circuits within the engine, management systems, and other electronics within the car (similar to a tazer in humans) and Shuts the ENGINE down.. B. Nothing on the brakes is electronic, at very most, servo assisted relies on pressure from the exhaust gasses assists a master cylinder in engaging the brakes.. But Even with the electronics gone there is still a connection between Foot, and master cylinder, and Brake calipers/drums on all wheels.. Even with ABS there is still a physical link.. Oh yeah.. and 90% of the "criminals" running the police trying to get away cant control the vehicle safely.. I would rather take out the brakes and have that SOB smash into some wall... and be seriously injured,
January 18, 200817 yr They work, albeit a little TOO well. If you kick it on as you're closing in on someone from behind who didn't hear/see you before, they tend to slam on their brakes as they react to the rumble. Which, if you're ready for it however, can lead to a whole new kind of fun...
January 18, 200817 yr Well.. i dont think you actually have any idea how.. -Snip- As vehicles rely more and more on electronics, such a device is POTENTIALLY dangerous. Is letting a car coast to a stop any safer than the precision immobilisation technique? Does the EMP effect other vehicles nearby? Is having a vehicle stopped in the middle of the road safe at all? Oh yeah.. and 90% of the "criminals" running the police trying to get away cant control the vehicle safely.. I would rather take out the brakes and have that SOB smash into some wall... and be seriously injured, And what happens when they don't hit a wall, but hit a pedestrian instead? Better to just track the vehicle as was linked in another thread and just let them think they've gotten away. It's much safer than disabling the vehicle in any way, shape, or form. __________________ Back on topic, I actually am really curious to see if they use these here, because I'm interested in seeing what it feels like (though I don't care to do anything illegal to find out ).
January 18, 200817 yr Yes vehicles are depending more and more on elctronics now a days but the brakes will always be controlled by pressure nad yes i would rather have them coast to a stop rather than a pit manuvuer because a pit also puts the officer in danger as well.
January 18, 200817 yr thats pretty neat. There are cars out there now that are meant to block all outside noise, and can block sirens. This thingy will help. I have been driving before with my windows up, the music not particularly loud, and not heard a siren coming from the side. I almost got hit by a officer in pursuit one time like that, I felt bad for getting in his way
January 18, 200817 yr As vehicles rely more and more on electronics, such a device is POTENTIALLY dangerous. Is letting a car coast to a stop any safer than the precision immobilization technique? Does the EMP effect other vehicles nearby? Is having a vehicle stopped in the middle of the road safe at all? And what happens when they don't hit a wall, but hit a pedestrian instead? Better to just track the vehicle as was linked in another thread and just let them think they've gotten away. It's much safer than disabling the vehicle in any way, shape, or form. __________________ Back on topic, I actually am really curious to see if they use these here, because I'm interested in seeing what it feels like (though I don't care to do anything illegal to find out ). The only thing about tracking a vehicle is that do you know who was behind the wheel, just because some one was driving does not mean he is the owner of the vehicle. It could be a stolen vehicle that has not been reported yet. Also what if the device falls off and most cities do not have air support. As a former mechanic ( of 8yrs. ) I know you can disable a vehicle safely and still have control. Now given you want have power breaks or power steering but you will still have breaks and steering. No Officer likes to put anyone at risk especially themselves, so don't think I just like chasing people because I have called off a few chases due to danger. "Is letting a car coast to a stop any safer than the precision immobilization technique?" --- Yes it is controlled for the most part. "Does the EMP effect other vehicles nearby?" --- I believe a EMP charge would could be localized to what ever I touches instead a burst that affects things around it. "Is having a vehicle stopped in the middle of the road safe at all?" --- YES remember a patrol car or two will be right behind it to keep other vehicles alerted to the danger.
January 18, 200817 yr -snip- "Is having a vehicle stopped in the middle of the road safe at all?" --- YES remember a patrol car or two will be right behind it to keep other vehicles alerted to the danger. Touche', first of all. I'm mainly bringing up things for discussion, because this kind of thing is interesting to me. Now to address the part I've quoted. As you and I both know, there are plenty of accidents with officers on the side of the road, and that's pretty much OFF the road. The way I see it, it'd be much more risky to have them in the middle of the road. Perhaps I'm being naive.
January 18, 200817 yr Yeah, it is here too, but that doesn't stop them from using it. They just wave at me while I'm in my police car. I smile wave back at them, then I stop them and write them a ticket. They dont smile so much after that. I wonder why. Can you give a ticket to the bozos putting on makeup on their way to work too. They stall traffic almost as much as the morons on the phone.
January 18, 200817 yr Can you give a ticket to the bozos putting on makeup on their way to work too. They stall traffic almost as much as the morons on the phone. Yeah, and there are a couple of men shaving on the way to work also! lol. I'll take care of both. Touche', first of all. I'm mainly bringing up things for discussion, because this kind of thing is interesting to me. Now to address the part I've quoted. As you and I both know, there are plenty of accidents with officers on the side of the road, and that's pretty much OFF the road. The way I see it, it'd be much more risky to have them in the middle of the road. Perhaps I'm being naive. Well, the answer is yes and no. It's not what I would call risky. I would call it less safe in the middle of the road. But, really if I had to disable the car in the first place, it probably is a lot safer anyways. To be honest with you, if I'm chasing a car then he isn't going to just pull over to the side of the road anyways. You probably are going to have more than one police car involved in a chase. Which means that the lane or lanes would be blocked off to make it safer for all. Also, when you stop a vehicle on the side of the road, you are supposed to leave your car half in back of the other car you are stopping to create a safe lane so I can walk up to the car without getting hit.
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