Pervis Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Im wondering is helmcamp cheating or not?? My opinion is that it's not.But how you guys feel about helmcampers??????? 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-3ishop Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Its a cheap tactic,But you can nade them most the time.its not really cheating because its in game, so you would call it bug exploting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enders Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 althouh it is in the game as a bug, I don't believe the developers intended for people to helmcam< (not helmcamp)Thus, I don't believe it's right to do so. It unbalances the playing field. And just isn't fun for anyone but the helmcammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catdady Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 i think its cheating cause it gives u an edge over ur opponent! i feel the same way about scripts as well!ppl like me who play without any scripts wether its reloadtime or i dont even know how many scripts there are,but any player without scripts has disadvantage versus script running players ego. its like using hax!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 OK I feel dumb asking, but I often feel dumb playing i.e. my score most of the time.What is helmcamping? I hear people gripe about it, infact I might do it, if you refer to headshots?Thankyou for your patience :Prico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystik_MDS Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 IMO there is no such thing as helm camming because all you have to do is look at the same spot from a different angleFor example lets take durandal one of my fav sniper maps I'm on blue and I sit in the blue balconyNow for people looking up from the ground and over by the tunnel exit its a lil hard to see me but for someone standing on the top floor of the red balcony its easy pickings along with someone standing to the right side of the blue balcony in we'll call it the neutral balconyIts just a matter of where your looking at the sniper fromJMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enders Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 No, i believe there is such as a thing as helmcammingWhen people are able to see u perfectly, but u can't see any of them.Example is just past the sandbags on the blue side of ps_river.I'm runnign down that dirt area and I'm suddenly sniped by some guy hiding behind the low concrete wall type thing at the end of it near the grassropes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgyver Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 There is such a thing.BUT.......In real life. (I know this is a game) a sniper would be so well covered that it would be just as hard to hit or find that pesron.Bottom line is deal with it. There are always work arounds or challenges.Instead of complaining about things people. Find solutions to the problem. M79's. 2 snipers against the one working in tandem. I have yet to be stumped by a helmet cammer for very long. Once they are down just put up an art flag if they keep on going there.Solutions solutions solutions. Always there are solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Well if it is about being above somebody or such isnt that just old common sense when it comes to military advantages on the field. Mystic you usually snipe when I am on the ground cause I am not very good at pointing and clicking a mouse. HEHErico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 my inputif it's not a bad thingthen why does Mazor work his ass off to try to eliminate from the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snauhi Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 i think its pretty lame ofcourse you can nade them but think of the maries blue spot or uphams behinde the boxes stuff you can just nade him from church and the problem is in the first place you dont even know if cammer is there or not?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 There's no such thing as helmetcamming people, get over it, and over yourselves.Part of being a sniper is finding great cover. More often than not the person you -think- is invisible is merely covered in shadow.I can play a pretty damned good sniper. I can also ferret out snipers pretty easily. All it takes is a bit of thinking. Also, angles do a lot to determine how easy and/or difficult it is for you and the sniper to see each other. If he kills you from one angle, go at him from another. Or, work as a team and draw his fire so someone else can take him out, then watch that spot. Presto!See guys! It's not -that- hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_NORM_US_1 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I agree with Wraith ,and if i may add that it also has a lot to do with how long you have played this mod its called experince you will learn just give it time ,, :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klif Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 ...all of you who claim there's no such thing as helmet camming, or that say "try another angle" don't know what exactly helmet camming is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadRoach Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Helmet camming, to my understanding, works like this. From the sniper's view, he's looking and shooting OVER an object. But from the victoms POV, you can't see anything but the top of the sniper's helmet, if that much.In CAL, it's against the rules, at least last time I checked. Play in their playground, play by their rules.Personally, anything that can be countered by mediocre skill (and let's face it, grenades don't take an enourmous amount of skill), is fine by me. I'm with Mac and Wraith on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNISHER Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Ok, in real life you can position yourself where only your head and your weapon are showing. It is the smart thing to do-minimize yourself as a target.I no longer see true headcamming anymore, there is always a part of the enemy showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 -PUNISHER]Ok, in real life you can position yourself where only your head and your weapon are showing. It is the smart thing to do-minimize yourself as a target. I no longer see true headcamming anymore, there is always a part of the enemy showing. And the survey says.... *drumroll* CORRECT!!! Tell him what he's won, Bob!! There's -always- a part of the sniper showing if he can shoot you. Just because you don't have the reaction time and/or visual acuity to locate and target that spot before you're fragged doesn't mean the sniper is helmet camming. There's always somebody better. There's always somebody lucky. Nobody is invincible. It behooves you to think that you're the best thing since sliced bread and nobody has a right to kill you. As stated before, get over yourself. You are -NOT- that damned good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifrit Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 since i've been in a military class i've study a lot about snipers and their moves. i use the same motto they do. "shoot or get shot" if the the other players can't see u the better u r. in tc_golan i have blue ppl running rite past me cuz they think i'm dead and then they r a easy target. if u don't like ppl helmetcamming the find another server that doesn't allow it. otherwise lean some skill at the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klif Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 -Wraith]There's -always- a part of the sniper showing if he can shoot you. no, wraith, in Firearms that's not always true! IM me on AIM: Klif13 we'll set up a server (or use the TAC) and i'll prove it to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snauhi Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 yes snipers try to use cover but they cant cam in the real life??? Its a bug in FA and its very annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enders Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 oh god...well, that's really funny, because I've noticed that Firearms ISN'T REAL LIFE!I can't drop my gun?I get hit in the leg with a .50 from a m82 and still moveI can't rollI can't kill anyone with just 1 hit of the knifeAll you people who are saying "Well, snipers in real life are usually hidden in ghillie suits and they can put holes in the things they're hiding behind" is really just deseperate reasons for why helm cam can be used.On ps_marie. I really can't throw a grenade over to the other side of the bridge. I could get my grenade out, but then I'd get capped in the head.Same with the m79. Not all of us are super uber experts at the m79, so most of us don't know how to make those perfect shots that'll blow the helm cammers to cheater's hell. I see helm cam as taking advantage of the flaws in the engine. So, if he want to make this as real and life-like as possible, i see banning helm cam as a good first step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgyver Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Deal with it guys. It is part of the game. That is a fact.You deal with everything else. So deal with this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadRoach Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 When killed in a way you don't like, just repeat the prayer our good chaplain taught me.... which is my sig.If you don't like it that much, don't play. Something I practice myself. *grumbles about AR's beating scoped rifles again* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 So, theorectially, if I was on golan, with a m16, and proned outside the enemy spawn, helmet cammed, and went 30-0 before I was banned, it would be just fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 So, theorectially, if I was on golan, with a m16, and proned outside the enemy spawn, helmet cammed, and went 30-0 before I was banned, it would be just fine? Theoretically, Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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