This REALLY SUXORS> I MEAN REALLY

[Macgyver]

For those of you wanting to upgrade your videocard in the future to PCI express.

 

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15739

 

 

 

The next time you will need to upgrade you will need:

 

Processor

 

Motherboard

 

PCI Express Videocard.

 

Add them all up and it is a substantial upgrade

 

But guess what people. You are forgetting the fact that this equipment will probably be availible in ONLY the new BTX form factor.

 

BTX will replace the ATX mobo/powersupplies/cases we are presently using.

 

So add a powersupply and case to the total bill.

 

Man just to upgrade your videocard in the future will sure be expensive!!!!!!!

[Shotty]

nasty.

[DEFCON]

meh, Ill have a 64 by then

[Killer From Away]

its not that badif your gonna buy a new mobo why not buy a cpu too and a 64bit at thatWe asked Via whether it would produce chipsets supporting PCI-E for XPs, and it said it has no such product in its roadmaps.and it didnt say anything about nVidia saying no to pci express just via and they sux

[MrBojangles]

that really really sucks. AMD is the best brand out there. well, i guess i could always buy a new processor too :/

[Shotty]

oh no, the thought of "having" to go out and purchase a new shiney superfast-AMD64..... i dont know whether to cry or laugh!

[gopatriots03]

haha use pentiums

[Commie_Peanut]

First time i've been glad I had a pentium...

[Macgyver]

Well who says Intel wont do the same thing.Just to keep it going.The next time you will need to upgrade you will need:ProcessorMotherboardPCI Express Videocard.Add them all up and it is a substantial upgradeBut guess what people. You are forgetting the fact that this equipment will probably be availible in ONLY the new BTX form factor.BTX will replace the ATX mobo/powersupplies/cases we are presently using.So add a powersupply and case to the total bill.Man just to upgrade your videocard in the future will sure be expensive!!!!!!!

[Killer From Away]

btx wont be out until atleast fall ATLEASTand they expect it wont take on for till atleast 05 plus you can mod a atx powersupply into a btx oneit just kinda adds the p4 plug into it with a little different wiring

[FINNER]

does this mean that my current xp 3000+ will not work with currently released carda after those months or just that the future i ncards will not be supported?

[Enders]

yeaI'm not going to upgrade to PCI until I absouetely need to, or if I just got loads of extra cash around (which is a rare occurance)Also, if you have a new 64 bit AMD Processor, are you sure you're going to need to upgrade your motherboard?For a while PCI isn't going to outperform AGP, it will eventually but AGP because they won't be able to fully utilise the technology

[Kamikaze]

ughtech boy will need to get news certsgod damn itfudge fudge fudge

[DasHuhn]

The next time you will need to upgrade you will need:

 

Processor

 

Motherboard

 

PCI Express Videocard.

 

Add them all up and it is a substantial upgrade

 

But guess what people. You are forgetting the fact that this equipment will probably be availible in ONLY the new BTX form factor.

 

BTX will replace the ATX mobo/powersupplies/cases we are presently using.

 

So add a powersupply and case to the total bill.

 

Man just to upgrade your videocard in the future will sure be expensive!!!!!!!

Considering most people don't buy enough of any of these items; they probably already needed it. Besides, it's best to upgrade in steps instead of "all at once" - surely you of alll people would know that. Besides, technology will always do something like this...When you upgrade your home entertainment theater, most of the time you need a new TV, new reciever, new speakers, wires, and a new table. When you're trying to get your car to be among the best, you need to upgrade just about everything in the engine. When you upgrade most things in real life, you need many updates of things surrounding the item - not just the item itself. Besides, most of the time you don't ***need*** the newest + best of the best for vid card, a 9800 pro will last for a long enough time while you save for the mobo/proc/case/vid card/ram/Ethernet card/PS/HD's. Hell, the 9500 Pro's are still decent cards now-a-days getting over 60FPS is most games, and they're really old in technology years.

[Macgyver]

That is sort of my point Dashuhn.With the way the future looks. You will not be able to incrementally upgrade.Eventually you will have to buy a whole new system. Yes BTX case, PS and all. By the time most people will need to upgrade that is all that will be availible.So like I said. When you need a new videocard b/c games will not run well. You will need a whole new system instead.Suxors

[Killer From Away]

i know you can mod a atx psu to a btx onei like my case so i WILL make it work with btxso right now all i would need to get isa grapix cardmoboand cpu maybe (well see what nVidia decides)

[Luker3]

Well, you don't really want to consider it an upgrade, but more of a new system purchase. What you have to do is say this is what level of technology I want to be at and do it. The say that you want to upgrade or even make a new purchase a year later to stay at a good place. Because, what it comes down to is that there is going to be a time when you can't just upgrade your computer. There are always leaps of technology being add and you have to say you want to be at that point.PCI-X will rock when it gets going. :)Some motherboard offer it, but it isn't that good yet so they only suggest it for better sound card quality.

[Macgyver]

It is just too bad you will not be able to put a videocard in and upgradelike we have in the past.You are right about the whole system thing. It is just not fair that they are making you buy a whole new car when your engine is weak.

[-DoL--Paluch]

That is sort of my point Dashuhn.

 

With the way the future looks. You will not be able to incrementally upgrade.

 

Eventually you will have to buy a whole new system. Yes BTX case, PS and all. By the time most people will need to upgrade that is all that will be availible.

 

So like I said. When you need a new videocard b/c games will not run well. You will need a whole new system instead.

 

Suxors

i knew about this along time ago(btx form factor and pci-e). what i am hoping they do is still make the really good video cards in agp format, so that i can buy the best of what i can with agp. In reality, i wont have enough money to buy all the stuff at once. I will also be very busy with school that games wont be as important.

[Macgyver]

That will be the wisest course of action.I am planning on doing just that.Getting a new GF when the price is reasonable.I will have an extememly fast system. Just at its limit of speed.

[DasHuhn]

In my eyes mac, you're complaining for no reason. You'll still be able to use the current systems for another 8+ years before you **really** need to upgrade; probably 6 before you need to upgrade where everything looks horrible. Besides, you just need a 'hard' update once, and then everything is fine. Most gamers realize that they need to upgrade their computer every 3-5 years with an entire new set, or things just don't work right.

[WSAENOTSOCK]

[Richard Simmons voice] Do I sense a marketing scheme? [/Richard Simmons voice]

[Killer From Away]

i dont upgrade my comp every 3-5 yearsthats a long timei try to do one major upgrade a yearlast year cpu mobothis yeard hd im gonna wait for benchies and prices before i decide what to do

[Laughing Fat Man]

Getting a new GF when the price is reasonable.

I don't know about you, but my GF's price wasn't reasonable at all

 

Anyway, I have 4 computers, but only keep 2 of them up to gaming specs. There's always a place for older stuff (servers, etc)

[DasHuhn]

i dont upgrade my comp every 3-5 years

 

thats a long time

 

i try to do one major upgrade a year

 

last year cpu mobo

 

this yeard hd

 

im gonna wait for benchies and prices before i decide what to do

Yeah, but when you buy an entire computer filled with the best-of-the-best equitment, you don't need anything for 3-5 years; seeing as then the stuff you bought would just NOW start becomming the "recommended' or "minimum requriements" stuff. I mean, a 1.4 came out; i dunno, say 4 years ago? 3 years ago? And most games still don't have a "minimum" or "recommended" requirement of a 1.4; they're still at 1 gigz or 900MHZ. I'm at 3.4 gigz, How long do you think i can wait on this computer? I'm willing to bet awhile.