This cool site has tons of videos detailing Russian weapons like the t90 ect. Check it out!

 

http://www.rusarm.ru/video/

all for sale to any terrorist with enough money. Thank God it is crappy russian equipment.

there is a guy in northern Delaware that has 2 migs (29 and 30) and 1 su27

there is a guy in northern Delaware that has 2 migs (29 and 30) and 1 su27

That's crazy, ask for a ride in one :mrgreen:

all for sale to any terrorist with enough money. Thank God it is crappy russian equipment.

crappy? no not really....not as good as American equipment, but some of the best in the world.

You can pay upwards of 5 thousand dollars to fly in a mig 25 or other migs. One of my family's friends won a trip to russia to fly in a mig 25.

all for sale to any terrorist with enough money. Thank God it is crappy russian equipment.

Crappy can you please back up your statment?? Because that really made me mad..

 

P.S CAN I GET A NAME CHANGE

BTW that S-300V video is very cool

And what terrorists?

Ah notice the cheesy instrumentation panels? Not exactly cutting edge. They are almost as cheesy as the videos and sound in them. Have you ever looked at how much more advance the USA stuff is? Granted this stuff is great for my smaller armies and 3rd world countries. With the fall of the USSR in the 80's most of that technology is based from that era because of economics they cant keep the standards even close to the USA. Not trying to put them down or anything, just stating economic facts.

 

As far as the terrorist thing goes...ah how often do you see USA stuff like that on the black market for sale that openly? You guessed it..you don't. Take a look at the main site http://www.rusarm.ru .

Notice countries like N. Korea, Iraq (prior), Iran, other fringe and 3rd world countries use this stuff as their primary weapons. Just stating the obvious, sorry facts offended you.

 

This is the only russian export from that era I think is cool....lol

http://russianbrides.com

Ah notice the cheesy instrumentation panels? Not exactly cutting edge. They are almost as cheesy as the videos and sound in them. Have you ever looked at how much more advance the USA stuff is? Granted this stuff is great for my smaller armies and 3rd world countries. With the fall of the USSR in the 80's most of that technology is based from that era because of economics they cant keep the standards even close to the USA. Not trying to put them down or anything, just stating economic facts.

 

As far as the terrorist thing goes...ah how often do you see USA stuff like that on the black market for sale that openly? You guessed it..you don't. Take a look at the main site http://www.rusarm.ru .

Notice countries like N. Korea, Iraq (prior), Iran, other fringe and 3rd world countries use this stuff as their primary weapons. Just stating the obvious, sorry facts offended you.

Iraq , Iran, and North Korea use the old **** stuff like T-72 or BMP-1 and even that is all exported versions.. If Iraq would have newer stuff USA would have a harder time in Iraq.And i wouldent call India a 3rd world country.

I a nice reply to that but it didnt submit for some reason....So I will just say this....India is about as close to 3rd world as you are going to get and still have an army. They are working on nukes but look at the nation as a whole.

and are russian made jets really that bad?? And the missle is not even new and still its good http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/aa-10.htm

 

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/23/airforce.supremacy.reut/index.html

You know what CNN stands for? The Communist News Network...they always have a story about how bad the USA is most.... europeans love them.Do you know when the F-15 was designed? You didnt catch the first paragraph about aging stuff. That is why it is key to stay on top of the new stuff. Lets see what happens against the F-22, of course lets see what new weapon they have coming out of russia to beat that? Oh that is right...they dont. Why they can afford a loaf of bread. Yep communism at its best.BTW Iraq had mig 29s but it didnt help them the first time or the second time.

As far as your account you will need to make another one...it is a pain to change it in the data base from what I understand.

http://www.stormfront.org/archive/t-141278RUSSIAN_FIGHTERS_SUPERIOR,_SAYS_PENTAGON.html

You know what CNN stands for? The Communist News Network...they always have a story about how bad the USA is most.... europeans love them.

 

Do you know when the F-15 was designed? You didnt catch the first paragraph about aging stuff. That is why it is key to stay on top of the new stuff. Lets see what happens against the F-22, of course lets see what new weapon they have coming out of russia to beat that? Oh that is right...they dont. Why they can afford a loaf of bread. Yep communism at its best.

 

BTW Iraq had mig 29s but it didnt help them the first time or the second time.

India ding have new russian stuff eather. F-22 aint out yet. Russia is working on SU-47, and have SU-37 and MiG-35

Ok I do not question the Mig29 as a good fighter but againThe Mig29 deployed 1982The F15 was deployed in 1972The F-18 deployed around 80-81 was made for ATG not just a fighterThe F16 was deployed around 1979.Now again the newer stuff is almost always better...So do you think the F-22 would be beat? I dont think so. But to be fair to the aging USSR stuff heck they are not going to have another one that new are they?Do you honestly think we could not walk over India about as fast as Iraq? Come on now. I dont give a damn how fast they turn...they can only dodge so many missles.

Ok I do not question the Mig29 as a good fighter but again

 

The Mig29 deployed 1982

The F15 was deployed in 1972

The F-18 deployed around 80-81 was made for ATG not just a fighter

The F16 was deployed around 1979.

 

Now again the newer stuff is almost always better...So do you think the F-22 would be beat? I dont think so. But to be fair to the aging USSR stuff heck they are not going to have another one that new are they?

 

 

Do you honestly think we could not walk over India about as fast as Iraq? Come on now. I dont give a damn how fast they turn...they can only dodge so many missles.

You're also saying that the T-90 MBT, BTR-90, and the KA-50 are pieces of junk? Many of vehicles listed on that site were post-Soviet.

 

WHAT!? The KA-50 is probably the best attack chopper in the world.

better than the apache?

there is a guy in northern Delaware that has 2 migs (29 and 30) and 1 su27

Theres a guy in Iowa who owns 15 Migs, I don't know which version they are. I didn't ask at the time, when i was talking to him. He offered to give me + my father a ride in them, me when i turn 21, and my father whenever he wanted to take it.

 

Also, compared to now-a-day items, russia's old "crappy" weapons, of COURSE, are going to be crappy. However, you also compare USA's old weapons to the new stuff, they, too; are crappy. It's all in the frame-of-mind.

SPECIFICATION

 

Dimensions

 

Main rotor diameter 14.5 metres

 

Length with rotating rotors 15.9 metres

 

Overall height 4.9 metres

 

Wing span 7.3 metres

 

Weights

 

Empty weight 7,692 kg

 

Normal take off weight 9,800 kg

 

Maximum take off weight 10,800 kg

 

Weight of consumable combat load 610 kg

 

Weight of maximum combat load 1,811 kg

 

Engines

 

Power plant

 

two TV3-117VMA engines 2 x 2,200 h.p.

 

Landing gear

 

Retractable tricycle nosewheel type landing gear

 

Performance

 

Maximum level flight speed 310 km/h:

 

Diving speed 390 km/h

 

Cruise speed 270 km/h

 

Hovering ceiling 4,000 metres

 

Service ceiling 5,500 metres

 

Vertical rate of climb at 2,500 m 10 m/s;

 

Range of flight with normal take-off weight 460 km

 

Ferry range 1,160 km

That's for the KA-50.

 

General characteristics

 

Primary function Attack helicopter

 

Contractor Boeing (previous McDonnell Douglas)

 

Power plant Two General Electric T700-GE-701C turboshaft engines

 

Thrust 2x 1,857 HP 2x 1,385 kW

 

Main rotor diameter 48 ft 14.63 m

 

Tail rotor diameter 9 ft 2 in 2.79 m

 

Fuselage length 49 ft 1 in 15.47 m

 

Length 58 ft 3 in 17.73 m

 

Height 15.24 ft 4.64 m

 

Wingspan 17.15 ft 5.23 m

 

Weight empty 11,387 lb 5,165 kg

 

max. takeoff 21,000 lb 9,525 kg

 

Max. speed 184 mph 296 km/h

 

Ceiling 10,200 ft 3,108 m

 

Range 428 miles 690 km

 

Crew Two

 

Armament 30mm cannon M230, up to 16 Hellfire rockets or 76 rockets 70 mm, possible its combination.

 

Date deployed 1984

Now, the fact that the apache is ten years older than the KA-50 does speak volumes IMO.

Dude Russian equipment is crappy. It w sits best during Vietnam. After that the Americans got so much better. As for russias new equipment, its this simple they still cant afford it. Not trying to bash you country but I have friends that left Russia because they hated it. Russias technology is even behind Americas old tech. f-14 is more than 30 years and still the premier jet fighter and yes its better than all that Russian junk. And the new f-22 and jsf-35 are better.T-90 MBT, BTR-90, and the KA-50As for those. T90 has a less effective and less accurate firing system, armor that would stop anything had it been in WWII. And the Russians just don't have the round technology like we have. V12 piston engineAbrams has angled depleted uranium armor, firing system that can place a round within 10 meters of its target at maximum range. Better munitions types. AGT1500 gas turbine engineBTR-90 is first off at this point on an export only contract. Carries smaller caliber weapons ( and Russian equipment Is not good unless there are a lot of them and they are big) , weighs 22 tons, has technology based on the btr-80 and bmp2 ( already junk)LAV can be fitted with the Abrams main battle cannon, grenade launcher, machinegun, radar jamming equipment, tow mounts, all have a self winching system, better crew protection (armor) , better communications, can be fitted for anti air weaponry, can be built into a tent!!! Better engine, suspension, electrical systems, weighs 23,000 lbs (28k max), better camera/visual equipment, and I looked at ever model of the btr90 and couldn't find shovel on the out side!You see where im getting to? Oh and ill back off a lot here but the KA50 will prolly crash before it takes of (figure that one out) Russian equipment always had a good concept and stuff like that but then again had the world be equal communism wouldn't be bad, but its not. 2nd rate cheap equipment isn't going to protect you from anything. If you want to keep arguing over this stuff let me know im up for it

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976387081.htm

 

an ak47 for 500 bucks

I can buy a processor for 500 bucks also.

 

for any terrorist group/milita/army, 500 bucks per rifle is extremly cheap

any word on those Marines from India?We got to have better Marines! :wink: