Should we establish a hard, fast ruling on baseraping and spawncamping on our server? If so what do you think it should be?

personally i think it should be permitted. only because in BF2 the commander's assets are in the main about 90% of the time. if a squad wishes to assult the main as a diversion, then it seems logical. just my 2 cents

Yeah I know it can get tiring, but I agree with WhiteNine.

Should we establish a hard, fast ruling on baseraping and spawncamping on our server? If so what do you think it should be?

JC, are you referring to me camping your main a couple of nights ago? I was destroying your assets. But you may not have seen what I was doing because you were lying on your back after our two engagements. LOL. I don't think we should put limits on baseraping. But spawncamping is for sissies for sure!

 

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We never really had a clear stance on this, I personally think we shouldn't allow it. There's a difference between spawn camping and destroying the assets, for example you don't need an apache or a tank to destroy the uav/scan/arty etc.. When one teams greatly stronger than another( which does happen ofter) it always ends up with one team not being able to spawn on their base. I've been on both sides of these situations, though it may be fun to fool around when your team is kicking butt...I see no reason why I should stay in the game when your getting raped to death for 100+ tickets. Whatever we decide though, I think we should enforce it. For the public and our members too. Just my thoughts.

Oh geez, here we go again... Look folks, its war!! If you can pin the enemy down in there own base, and keep them there, then that's what you do! Don't allow them to exit there main base, to get flags, or, if they do get flags, keep them from using their assets, and aircraft etc. to assist in defending and or capping other flags. A team that soley concentrates on camping the uncappable will ultimately loose against any half descent team. If you have other flags, spawn there. If you don't have other flags, then work together to get out, on foot if you have too, to get other flags. If the enemy is all at your base, then you should be able to cap other flags. It's not "base raping" it's WAR!! I get so tired of this argument... It's fair game, and part of it. Yes, it's very frustrating to be on the receiving end of it, but, look at yourself, and your team to find out how you ended up there in the first place... Everyone spawning at the main, the big line for aircraft?? Fact is, if you have a descent team, that works together, you won't end up in this situation.....

 

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i think it is more alo ng the lines of basecamping period, i can understand spawn killing with no flags left but in the general gameplay when there are flags to be gotten why sit in an uncap???? go get the flag, personally i do here and there spawn kill, but for the most part if i am in a chopper, or any other vehicle i will not shoot at you until you shoot at me...if i go about shooting up flags and i get shot at from an uncap, i am gonna go steam roll the bugger, plain and simple......i was mad the other night for the fact we had 2 tanks and an apc killing us as we spawned.....that is uncool and far from fun, we lost quite a few players of our team that round

I agree with Smash, that camping an uncap when they don't have any flags is different then just sitting there at an uncap picking up cheap kills cause your not good enough to take or defend a flag. I don't think we need to have a ruling on it because for everytime you have done it, its probably happened to you. Whatever points gained or stats lost even themselves out eventually.

I agree.. From a personal standpoint, I do it when we have all the capable. If one goes grey, or is taken, I immediately focus my attention on recapturing the flag/flags lost...

 

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You know what? That's the problem here. One day it's good to baserape and spawn camp the next day its not. I just don't want the whining! Either we do it, or not. None of this wishy washy crap. I'm not gonna be pissin' people off, I just want the cryin' to stop! Btw if it's war not a GAME why limit the language too?

Oh, I cuss up a storm, for sure, I just don't push the "push to talk" button... :thumbsup:

 

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You know what? That's the problem here. One day it's good to baserape and spawn camp the next day its not. I just don't want the whining! Either we do it, or not. None of this wishy washy crap. I'm not gonna be pissin' people off, I just want the cryin' to stop! Btw if it's war not a GAME why limit the language too?

he makes a good point...all you on here that are against making a rule...we dont't want to hear any crying when you are getting spawn killed

You know what? That's the problem here. One day it's good to baserape and spawn camp the next day its not. I just don't want the whining! Either we do it, or not. None of this wishy washy crap. I'm not gonna be pissin' people off, I just want the cryin' to stop! Btw if it's war not a GAME why limit the language too?

I don't like base camping either, but its part of the game. It causes added stress for the opponent, because he must pull troops who would normally be capturing/defending flags.

 

Who is going to enforce this rule? I like to enjoy my game, and only care to stop and remove blatant violators "only". We have a hard enough time getting players as it is, so do we remove every player that comes near the main base? I personally want to enjoy the game, and not spend most of it watching the main base for violators.

 

The "language" is in place to keep the server friendly, because that is what we are all about. The server's "auto-admin" takes care of this most of the time.

true its war, but you also want it to be fun. I agree to no base camping uncappable flags.

 

btw jc your such a whinner. :banana: :thumbsup:

true its war, but you also want it to be fun. I agree to no base camping uncappable flags.

 

btw jc your such a whinner. :thumbsup:

he either meant winner :banana: or whiner ...im not sure which

Well im against spawnraping in an uncap, baseraping isnt as bad as long as your moving around, but sitting there in an apc/tank and killing guys as they spawn in not letting them move is very annoying!

I also have been on both sides of the spawn-camping situation. We all agree that this is a game and it is very hard to enforce the "RULES." My point is that when your team is weaker and cant get another flag... it forces players to quit, join the other team, or just continue to get pounded. Many I have seen do the first (quit), which is not good for the server traffic. I really like the POE mod for the "dome of doom." its too bad that BF2 cant employ this and put the assets outside the dome. OUT!

well I see where people are comming from with baseraping an uncap, but they do place tows and aa in the uncap to offer some defence against it, I just dont like when they sit in the same spot and kill people as they spawn in.

i hate both spawn camping and base raping but when it come down to me doing the caping or raping its pretty fun lol. With the basecamping i think that if your gonna destroy the assets then destroy them and then leave the base dont stay there and camp, thats my opinion. :thumbsup:

I think basecamping is fine in any way shape or form. You may not be capping flags, but you are helping your team out. In SF, most tanks and other veichles spawn at the base. If you are killing the enemy before they reach the tank. Guess what. Your helping your team out because now they don't have to worry about a T-90 rolling up on them. Same goes for the LAV. That and if the enemy wants that tank bad enough they might spawn back as ANTI-TANK!!! 2 SHOTS and the TANK is DOWN. Now they can get their tank and their enemy is gone. Also, it does cause the enemy team to pull troops back in that situation. Which then again, helps out your team to cap flags.

You know what? That's the problem here. One day it's good to baserape and spawn camp the next day its not. I just don't want the whining! Either we do it, or not. None of this wishy washy crap. I'm not gonna be pissin' people off, I just want the cryin' to stop! Btw if it's war not a GAME why limit the language too?

EASY- Breath in Breath out.

I don't like base camping either, but its part of the game. It causes added stress for the opponent, because he must pull troops who would normally be capturing/defending flags.

 

Who is going to enforce this rule? I like to enjoy my game, and only care to stop and remove blatant violators "only". We have a hard enough time getting players as it is, so do we remove every player that comes near the main base? I personally want to enjoy the game, and not spend most of it watching the main base for violators.

 

The "language" is in place to keep the server friendly, because that is what we are all about. The server's "auto-admin" takes care of this most of the time.

I gree with Gator on this issue.

Oh geez, here we go again... Look folks, its war!! If you can pin the enemy down in there own base, and keep them there, then that's what you do! Don't allow them to exit there main base, to get flags, or, if they do get flags, keep them from using their assets, and aircraft etc. to assist in defending and or capping other flags. A team that soley concentrates on camping the uncappable will ultimately loose against any half descent team. If you have other flags, spawn there. If you don't have other flags, then work together to get out, on foot if you have too, to get other flags. If the enemy is all at your base, then you should be able to cap other flags. It's not "base raping" it's WAR!! I get so tired of this argument... It's fair game, and part of it. Yes, it's very frustrating to be on the receiving end of it, but, look at yourself, and your team to find out how you ended up there in the first place... Everyone spawning at the main, the big line for aircraft?? Fact is, if you have a descent team, that works together, you won't end up in this situation.....

 

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The fallacy in this is that, in fact, this is not war, but a video game that is meant to be enjoyed from all sides. One side may be having an awesome time spawn camping, but the other side isn't.

 

You're only going to lose players if they aren't having a good time due to rampant basecamping.

 

Having the words 'spawn/base camping is allowed' in your server text is only going to be an invitation for smacktards

only time its an issue is if the team that is camping is totally outnumbering the "being camped" team..

 

 

 

now picture this situation (karkand is a good exmaple) the non-US team has all the flags bar the US spawns... what should they do, go whistle and cook marshmellows till the US gets off their a-- and fights their way out?

 

 

whining about spawncamping/base raping is the easy way out.. Taking a base somewhere else isnt...

If there is no rule then people can only complain to be honest... i have sat outside an enemy uncapable... with 2-3 exits that i cant see, and watched the same guy come out of the exit time and time again, with the same kit (usually not AT) and then whine bout being spawn camped... Newsflashh C4 Hurts tanks.. i cant see around me, if someone is spawncamping in a vehicle go up and stick a C4 up his arse... problem solved.